A good day in the life of Reilly

Sure, it was only an intrasquad scrimmage involving redshirts and developing players.

But Beau Reilly, the No. 2 quarterback, created an in-house buzz with his performance in yesterday’s scrimmage. He completed 7-of-8 passes for 158 yards and two touchdowns.

On the scrimmage’s first play, a shot-gun snap skipped past Reilly for a 20-yard loss. Then, on second-and-30, Reilly turned his body to face slotback Samson Anguay in the right flat. Reilly then threw a slip screen to 5-foot-5 Pereese Joas in a middle crease. Freed by a couple of linemen, Joas then sprinted the rest of the way to complete the 80-yard touchdown.

Later, Reilly connected with wideout Duke Bukoski on a fade route for a 45-yard touchdown.

“It was a nice relief to be able to do something,” Bukoski said.


On the day’s most spectacular play, the offense faced a third-and-3. Reilly, with no target open, scrambled to his right. somersaulted over an on-coming defender, and splatted for a 6-yard gain and a first down. Teammates were in dazed silence until Reilly popped to his feet, triggering loud approval from the offense, defense and coaches.


“It was back to my high school days,” Reilly said. “I was never the biggest guy. I never ran over people. I have some moves. I have some long legs, so I hopped him.”

Entering the season fourth on the depth chart, Reilly said he never expected to play or travel this season. But he ascended following injuries to backup QBs Taylor Graham and Jeremy Higgins. Reilly said he is learning — and benefitting — from the additional reps.

COMMENTS

  1. boolakanaka November 12, 2014 6:40 am

    Ekahi! Boola-boola beau-beau!


  2. d1shima November 12, 2014 6:42 am

    Great Morning All!

    Let’s Go Beau!


  3. truegreen November 12, 2014 6:52 am

    oh oh…quarterback controversy developing…lol


  4. ArcumFortis November 12, 2014 7:00 am

    Why not give Beau a chance. Ikaika has had his chance. Although Ikaika has improved it is unlikely that he will be our starter next year. So let’s play Beau and see what happens. The only downside is burning the redshirt year and this may be a big deal in forward planning. But we need something. It will be truly depressing if we line up the same way on Sat and start doing the same things with the same results offensively. Free Beau!


  5. 5tom November 12, 2014 7:01 am

    GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!


  6. tom November 12, 2014 7:05 am

    GOOD GRIEF!

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”
    GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!


  7. boolakanaka November 12, 2014 7:21 am

    Arcum—there are in a pinch now, so deep into the season, and deciding on whether to burn his redshirt year. Sort of like dipping into your 401k, its there, but is that what it’s really meant to be used for…

    Much like the compounding that takes place on our investments, sometimes, we must resist the urge to enjoy something today, so that it will pay much larger dividends in the future….but what the heck do I know??!


  8. hatakeman November 12, 2014 7:29 am

    Beau is ready to go, but I would keep him out to preserve his red-shirt. Anyway, Ikaika is doing a good job now. The last three losses were really a team failure. As for the QB position, the future looks bright.


  9. Z November 12, 2014 7:48 am

    Pereese. Duke.

    But if Ikaika goes down? Then what?


  10. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 7:50 am

    “There is enough ego on both sides. Both need to step back and recognize that sports fill an important need in the college experience.”

    going back to the other discussion thread about the importance of college athletics, as a former college athlete myself, I feel that sports are important, but also, people here need to have some perspective on what exactly is the core function of the university.

    the core function of the university is to educate, not just life support for a football team. Sports can be an important part of that educational experience or it isn’t, but by no means is it ESSENTIAL to the education of minds and the handing out of degrees (especially when so few football players in the big schools graduate anyway).

    The reason why schools like stanford, berkley, michigan, are able to invest so much money in their athletics program is because they play in power-5 conferences with huge tv contracts and revenue streams. For all the lip service they may pay to athletics being some kind of essential foundational part of the college experience (which in and of itself is probably a load of crap because there are a lot of amazing universities out there that have vibrant campus communities that don’t revolve around their football teams), the bottom line is, football is a HUGE money maker. It’s a business. and a big one. At this point in the game, at the major division I level, that’s what it’s about.

    But all this talk of cutting professors’ pay or this whining about academia or whatever, come on, man. The university IS academia. Do you realize that tenured faculty bring in millions upon millions of dollars in grants, research funding, and so on? Plus UH faculty pay is actually pretty low compared to the national average, even though it’s the only Tier I research institution in the pacific.

    Sure, football is important, and everyone likes to watch UH sports, for the most part, but let’s have some perspective here.


  11. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 7:51 am

    #7: ikaika woolsey isn’t really doing all that great of a job, but he’s probably the best option UH has at qb right now.


  12. Shoko November 12, 2014 7:52 am

    All it takes is one injury, perhaps not a serious one but enough to put Woolsey on the bench for a period of time, and Reilly would be forced to burn his redshirt. Even Prater, or whoever is the backup to the backup, is an injury away from seeing some playing time this year.


  13. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 7:54 am

    I would argue that ultimately, the prestige of the university doesn’t involve around the football team, but its academics, research, and scholarship. And if it doesn’t revolve around that, then something is very very wrong, both in how we think about education, and how we think about what sports are and how they function in the university.


  14. Z November 12, 2014 7:55 am

    But. But what happened to putting in the player that gives the team the best chance to win the game? Chow has said that he doesn’t recruit to reshirt. Or did I hear him wrong?


  15. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 7:55 am

    *prestige of the university doesn’t REVOLVE, not involve.


  16. A-House November 12, 2014 8:07 am

    no, no, no!!!

    do not put Beau R in the game!!!

    with Beau in, there is an even chance that UH will win 1 or 2 of the last 3 remaining games

    this will severely undermine my opportunity to win my bet with kifi and SteveM

    leave Beau out! leave Beau out!! leave Beau out!!!


  17. Z November 12, 2014 8:08 am

    Beau could use redshirt if he decides to transfer after the season. We have seen players jump sinkimg ship before. If he is going to do it that would be a good time for him to do it.


  18. Z November 12, 2014 8:17 am

    12. Then something is wrong. In newspapers we see a sports section but no acadamia section.


  19. Shoko November 12, 2014 8:18 am

    And if Reilly is forced to burn his redshirt because of injury and performs worse than Woolsey, will fans will be calling for his backup?


  20. tom-warriornation November 12, 2014 8:19 am

    Hundreds Expected to Attend 15th Annual Hawaii Rainbow Warrior Football Tailgate at San Jose State University.

    The 15th annual Road Rainbow Warrior football tailgate, a San Francisco Bay Area tradition, is scheduled for Saturday, November 15, near the San Jose State University Spartan Stadium. In the past, up to 1,500 have attended the Road Rainbow Warrior Tailgate that features live Hawaiian music, ono local Hawaiian style food, and fabulous raffle prizes.
    The tailgate will feature several well known San Francisco Bay area music artists plus Alex Kawakami of Hawaii’s Manoa DNA group. The University of Hawaii band will also make a special appearance with Head Football Coach Norm Chow. Larry Beil, former Hawaii television and ESPN sportscaster, and now Bay Area ABC sportscaster, will emcee the event.
    The event is supported by major sponsors including GEICO, Outrigger Hotels and Resorts, Hukilau Restaurants, Alaska Airlines, University of Hawaii Alumni Association, University of Hawaii Foundation, Na Koa Football Club, Hawaii Chamber of Commerce of Northern California (HCCNC) and HZONE.
    The event is from 10 am to 12:30 pm with a major raffle drawing for two Alaska Airlines tickets to Hawaii, a Waikiki weekend stay donated by Outrigger and a Samsung Smart Watch. Many other prizes will be given away.
    According to Daryl Higashi, HCCNC President, “the concept of a Hawaii tailgate at an away football game started in 1999 when HCCNC, a group of expats who were also die hard football fans, teamed with the University of Hawaii in sponsoring a November tailgate attended by 1,000 at San Jose State Stadium. The Hawaii team won in a shootout, 62-41. “
    A Friday night (November 14) Hawaii football weekend kickoff party will be held at Hukilau San Jose from 6 to 8:30 pm. All information on the tailgate, buying football tickets and the Friday night party can be found at hccnc.com.


  21. Shoko November 12, 2014 8:22 am

    I dunno but I got a good feeling about SJSU. Think its going to be close and the Warriors eek out its first road victory. I think Clune will show that the defense earlier this season wasn’t a fluke.

    If I’m wrong, then it wouldn’t be the first time I looked like a fool. Bank on it!!


  22. AdmrVT November 12, 2014 8:22 am

    Stephen:

    Who writes the poll Questions for the paper?

    With a $3.5 million deficit forecast for the UH-Manoa athletics program, what should be done about football?

    A. Cut it (38%, 271 Votes)
    B. Go from Division I to D-II (32%, 226 Votes)
    C. Keep intact (30%, 215 Votes)

    Total Votes: 712

    The Department as a whole has a forecasted deficit, but they ask if what we should do about the one sport that brings in the revenue? Why just football and not athletics period? This poll means nothing.

    By the way, if football moves to DII, it would just delay the inevitable. Does anyone really think that UH, as a DII football team, (a) would find a conference to play in, (b) would draw fans to see a “softer” schedule filled with, for example, Linfield, Weber State, Northern Arizona, etc.? Even the MAAC schools are Div. I, and I don’t think those home games would draw.

    And what happens then to the UH’s non-revenue sports? If we aren’t Div. I anymore, I guess we could trim sports and only keep basketball, baseball and volleyball — forego the rest? But, would they also then be DII. Men’s volleyball would likely fade to DII also. Would the women’s VB also die a slow death, until Coach Shoji does retire (which may then come sooner?

    You have to wonder if what is going on is a “set up” by upper campus. Lassner and the BOR are doing a “Pontius Pilate” and waiting for the Leg to say “no” to funding athletics. Then they can either close the entire program or do the “slow fade.”

    Then “academia” can do as it pleases — although they will still have inept leadership at the top. And, by the way, having tenured faculty bring in millions in grants does NOT mean this is a top academic institution. It is NOT. This tenured faculty have their grad assistants do the teaching. LOL.


  23. Whats Up November 12, 2014 8:27 am

    Woolsey has had plenty of chances, it’s time to put in Beau Reilly already. Give him a chance to get some live game reps and see how he develops.


  24. gobows November 12, 2014 8:31 am

    yeah, yeah, yeah. But what if the buggah was to play like that in a real game? Then what. Brah, that goin make our supa shmat offensive guru coach look like he dont know what he doing.


  25. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 8:31 am

    sure. nobody is saying that UH is harvard. and yeah. underpaid adjuncts teach a lot of courses, especially the intro 100 and 200 level courses. but this is an issue throughout pretty much ALL universities across the US (including the elite ones), not just UH.

    and i agree. going down to division II is a terrible idea. i dont’ really have a strong stance either way on the conspiracy theory to end UH athletics as we know it though, except to say that i’m doubtful this is the case.


  26. Andrew November 12, 2014 8:35 am

    Doesn’t matter if you put Woolsey in, or Riley, or even Colt Brennan, if the receivers continue to drop passes, and are unable to get open, the offense is still going to have similar problems.


  27. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 8:41 am

    wonder how many people watch a chess match on sundays here in good
    old US OF A ?

    this is getting sickening…n redundant… scrimmage.. n all that do good or excellent.. go back on saturdays n burn the timbers…all he is doing is giving them opportunities to get hurt…

    there is nothing more for coach to gain for the season…give rewards to players who worked so hard during the summer…let them experience what going into a game feels like for gosh sakes…your goals of ‘chasing championships’ are over..go home n look in mirror n admit..failure.. n accept it…n now show what a REALLY HUMBLE MAN WOULD REACT…to DOING HIS BEST…allow the bench burners some playing time…for this will maybe their last 3 opportunities…


  28. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 8:42 am

    At this juncture of their history, UH, from a financial model, could not go to D2. In short, without the subsidy from the conference, which also translates to TV contracts and playing “named opponents and pay days, the whole thing goes away. Smaller schools would not be able to afford to come out to play on a consistent basis.

    As it has been previously stated, only about 20 schools, in the entire D1 football programs, run their athletic in the black. So, we are actually smack dab in the middle of many many other schools, and a running a deficit. It’s not so much mismanagement, (that said, there is always room for greater efficencies), but rather structural and systemic problems.

    The current business platform for at least D1 football is tilted towards the largest institutions dedicating the largest resources. It’s been said many times, but we need to have more “flex” from our BOR, and we need to raise the student fees–period.


  29. ArcumFortis November 12, 2014 8:44 am

    9. 4 Prong…..your points are of course valid. And UH faculty do carry the University with their capacity to divert our federal tax dollars and other monies into the state by way of grants. This is good and our UH faculty are indeed under appreciated and comparatively underpaid. But UH also is very top heavy in terms of administration and this top heaviness has increased substantially over the past 10 years. This extra administration does not seem to have translated into extra efficiency in the institution. However these same administrative leaders are the ones who have influence. I doubt that they will be cutting back on themselves any time soon.

    Of course you are correct that a primary goal of a university is to educate. And that much of education is of course intellectual. This is fine. But the point is that intellectual education is not the only education. For example, the fine arts are not predominately intellectual. They are expressive. In my opinion a university would be impoverished without the fine arts. MIT has a very fine drama department for instance. Similarly athletics is a form of education and a valid form. This does not mean that athletics should bleed a university dry and compromise its ability to provide education in other vital areas. Nor that paying Norm Chow’s salary should mean being unable to retain talented professors. Only that athletics deserves respect and this respect is practically demonstrated by having leadership that understands the world of athletics. When you don’t have this sort of leadership it is likely that athletics will be undervalued and deteriorate over time. Is this what we are witnessing at UH right now? I dunno. But there certainly is a deterioration and some of the major decisions being made leave me shaking my head.

    Also, as stated by many recently, college athletics has become a big business and schools like UH are collateral damage in the money grab the big schools have orchestrated. But that is what it is. If we want a football team we will have to find the resources to support it. Otherwise we will have what we have now which is not satisfactory to anyone. So we either find the appropriate leadership and funding or we accept we simply cannot compete and throw in the towel. More austerity will likely only produce more mediocrity. Big decisions need to be made in this regard. Big decisions need big leaders. I hope we have such leaders. Recent events have made we question whether we do.


  30. gigi-hawaii November 12, 2014 8:49 am

    I think Beau should start the next game.
    No harm in trying.
    Glad to see the guys still find a way to have fun on the field.


  31. Andrew November 12, 2014 8:51 am

    Doesn’t matter if you put Woolsey in, or Riley, or even Colt Brennan, if the receivers continue to drop passes, and are unable to get open, the offense is still going to have similar problems.


  32. Andrew November 12, 2014 8:52 am

    Not to mention the OL and running game having issues too


  33. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 8:54 am

    yea bring back oliver lee as AD.. n move to div II…them were the years…maybe the ‘taxi driving’ dude can go n burn a bldg sum where…just for ‘flavor’…


  34. NorthShoreFan November 12, 2014 8:56 am

    Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day.
    Waves pounding the shores…awesome power!

    Chow does not recruit to redshirt. Started some freshmen but they lost job to more experience personnel. If can play, they start. Devan was penciled to start.
    Scrimmage was between redshirts and scouts, not first team, so expect standouts will be competing for a job next year.


  35. NorthShoreFan November 12, 2014 8:58 am

    IMUA WARRIORS!


  36. Warrior Dave November 12, 2014 8:59 am

    A-House,

    Thanks for the info last week regarding NYC. We will arrive tomorrow after several days in Vegas.

    I love your comment above. Might as well look for some free lunches based on this dismal season. Great that Beau did so well but that only makes fans want him in more. I don’t think he’ll see the field this year unless Ikaika goes down. Next option is for Joey to be QB.


  37. egan.kawamoto November 12, 2014 8:59 am

    Play Duke Bukoski, I know he can catch.


  38. Andrew November 12, 2014 9:01 am

    I think a lot of people are mixing up division II and division 1-AA. I laugh when people suggest UH moving down, it’s comical. Fans barely even show up to the games even when we are undefeated playing Idaho, and Utah State. What makes them think that they would want to go watch and support UH play some Division 1-AA team like Montana State or Southern Utah? If the plan is to move down, might as well just get rid of the program altogether, they would not survive at a lower division.


  39. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 9:04 am

    arcum: my definition of education includes everything from humanities, hard sciences, fine arts, etc. you can argue that athletics is education, and i think it is. but at the same time, it’s only open to the 1% of the student population who can even make the team.

    but i do agree that UH management is terrible. If people are whining about how mismanaged the athletic department is by ben jay and upper campus, i mean, christ, take a look at what’s happening in the upper campus side of the house. It’s a wreck. hiring freezes, maintenance backlogs, etc etc. so some of the people were talking about “ivory tower this” and “ivory tower that”, as if upper campus lives in luxury and is totally neglecting the poor football team. no, the crisis in leadership affects EVERYONE. only upper campus (including professors and adjuncts) think (and rightfully so) that they are the heart of the university, and so priority needs to not be on a failing football program, but on improving the academic side of the house.

    it’s hard to argue with them on that point, although i agree with you. football and sports has its place and i wouldn’t advocate cutting any sport or moving down a division (and i seriously doubt this would ever happen).

    but regardless of the leadership issues, and the systemic issues in the structure of college sports itself (as boola points out), i really think norm chow needs to get the boot after this season. i mean, really. he’s doing a pretty terrible job, even given the hand he was dealt.


  40. ArcumFortis November 12, 2014 9:15 am

    Let’s recruit Boola for AD! Time to come home brother…..no excuses!


  41. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 9:17 am

    northshore fan..it makes no sense to have a scrimmage..this year to ‘expect stand outs to compete for a job next year’

    seems that is his philosophy…n makes no sense at all.. just putting players in ‘harms way’…if he don’t know what he has by now..time to retire…at least if PLAYERS GET HURT..LET IT BE IN A ‘GAME’ not on PRACTICE FIELD…shows to me..no real concern for players…is just stupid…second one he has done.. what benefits did he reap from it…ZERO… THE ONES THAT EXCELLED…still burning the timbers…


  42. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 9:20 am

    #38: he’s got my vote. plus, he uses really big words.


  43. NorthShoreFan November 12, 2014 9:21 am

    While I was on a baseball team, we had scrimmages all the time. Basketball and any other sport. It’s part of player development. They are competing against redshirts and scouts. Will they be as productive against first team personnel?. I don’t know. I’m not the coach and I have no division 1 experience.


  44. SteveM November 12, 2014 9:26 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Good for Beau Reilly! Maybe the blog host knows something is coming up with all the ink he’s been giving Reilly (but cannot say)? 😕

    I wouldn’t bet my lunch money on Reilly starting, but if it makes A-House nervous…. 🙄


  45. Shoko November 12, 2014 9:29 am

    Never realized how hard it is find SJSU football articles, especially leading up to the game. But, I found one that doesn’t offer anything more than what’s been reported about SJSU (i.e. rush defense and pass rush).

    “I think part of that is experience,” Caragher said. “When you look at a first-year starterJoe Gray), you’re not going to see the touchdown to interception ratio with a huge gap. It’s going to be a little closer. And then as they mature, you see that gap grow. Joe Gray is coachable. I believe he learns from mistakes being made. He will grow and be a better quarterback down the road.”

    Hmm, their quarterback sounds familiar.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_26909895/san-jose-state-coach-consider-changing-practice-times


  46. Akamai November 12, 2014 9:32 am

    Before getting giddy with the Qbs in the bullpen, let’s look at some facts.

    There are two Chow Mini Me’s out there: Lane Kiffen and Steve Sarkisian. Both men served as understudies to Chow at USC. I believe both played QB for Chow at BYU.

    Mini Me #1, Kiffen: Fired from USC in 2013. In 2012, with a talented 5 star senior QB Matt Barkley who started three years in the offense, the Trojans went 7-6, ending the season with a loss to Paul Johnson’s Georgia Tech triple option in the Sun Bowl.

    Mini Me #2, Sark: UW 2009 5-7, 2010 (QB Jake Locker) 6-6, 2011 7-6, 2012 7-6, 2013 8-4. In 2013, Sark threw the Chow playbook on the scrap heap, and converted to an Oregon clone, hurry up offense. Sark was quoted as saying he couldn’t find good O linemen to run the old offense. Total 33-29 or, 4 games above .500.

    Mini Me #3, Wynn: Still forming, but so far, not so good when compared to Rolo.

    So a star QB Wittek takes over next year. Better, but no MWC championship.


  47. innocent observer November 12, 2014 9:32 am

    can’t understand why chow does not want to try reilly. ikaika not getting it done. chow needs to win now, if not he is gone. guess he is resigned to the fact that this is his last year and does not really care about the rest of the season. he claims he is not a quitter, but it looks like he quit already.


  48. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 9:32 am

    4prong, you know what they say–“big words–small slippahs”– heheh


  49. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 9:33 am

    Plus, I only make sense when I am drinking beers….


  50. lawaia November 12, 2014 9:35 am

    Best wishes to Coach Chow and staff this weekend. And to the players: Imua Na Koa Anuenue.


  51. Ipu Man November 12, 2014 9:40 am

    “…splatted for a 6-yard gain”. 🙂


  52. SteveM November 12, 2014 9:40 am

    RE: #21
    AdmrVT — you beat me to it. I was gonna ask who writes the poll questions. In this case, hopefully no one connected to the sports department if it is that ignorant. It’s implication is very misinformative. Poll at:
    http://poll.staradvertiser.com/


  53. Old Diver November 12, 2014 9:42 am

    Preserving Beau’s redshirt year should not be a priority. If Chow is still around the USC guy will start next year and one would have to think better quarterbacks than Beau will be in the mix during the next four years. If Beau shows well he will have the inside track to play next year. Frankly if Beau is the best Chow can do at recruiting he is going to be fired a some point anyway and if Chow is fired at years end Beau may want to transfer anyway. Just saying.


  54. ArcumFortis November 12, 2014 9:46 am

    47 Boola….just write a “beer clause” into your contract


  55. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 9:57 am

    This has nothing to with football or UH football, but absolutely fascinating read and bit of history of an area we all know–some of us, better than others–ahem:https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/article/20141112160753-88723353–3-for-3-minutes?_mSplash=1&trk=prof-post


  56. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 9:57 am

    just because a dude is…’skinny’ does not mean he cannot perform..have to give him the ball n see what happens under fire…scrimmage is no difference then a game…just that those opposing you…you know by name and …it is still ‘under fire’ n maybe sum hate you..so could be worst…

    give him a year….more of plate lunches..he may fill out… he can pass…it seem,s like ST reported.. that seems to me what we need now…sumone that can throw the ball ..long n accurate…


  57. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 10:00 am

    Arcum, trying to enforce my “beer clause” is always a sticking point….


  58. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 10:04 am

    But on s a serious note, a legitimate and very viable candidate for any potential AD job in the future, is my ex-teammate and all-around good Bruddha –Sam Moku. Currently a VP at HPU, has a MBA, knows everyone, is Akamai and is an ex-player (starter) from the glory years.


  59. jeezy33 November 12, 2014 10:09 am

    Based on what I read on the topic, I come away more concerned then excited. A snap that gets skipped past the QB for a 20 yard loss? Against a real defense, that’s automatic punt. Against Hawaii scout team 0 IQ defense, 80 yard touchdown. Not like it takes talent to throw a screen pass. It takes being stupid to give up a 80 yard TD on 2nd and 30.


  60. Inyoface November 12, 2014 10:18 am

    Practice? We talkin’ bout practice?


  61. jeezy33 November 12, 2014 10:21 am

    58. We look so good at practice, maybe we should start selling tickets so fans can see how good we practice… “hardest working team” in the nation. Every week i turn on Inside Access, I know we going to work.


  62. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 10:22 am

    yea me agree you jeezy…not so bright coaches….on that 80 yard pass play..


  63. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 10:36 am

    be nice to see sum response to some of the players past..on how the ‘noga’ brothers treated scrimmage..or sum others …?


  64. jm2375 November 12, 2014 10:54 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    AdmrVT #21 – a point of clarification. Even if Warrior volleyball would drop to DII status, they would still play in the MPSF. The only thing I’m not sure about would be the number of, if any, scholarships allowed in DII. It’s bad enough as it is in DI with 4.5 scholarships to spread among the ~20 student-athletes.

    I cannot see UH dropping to the DII (or even FCS) level. It would mean much less revenue and higher deficit to the Dept and the University. Things are very different from the time UH was DII back in the 70s.


  65. jm2375 November 12, 2014 10:55 am

    BTW, those polls are dumb.


  66. A-House November 12, 2014 10:56 am

    “guys ‘n dolls”:

    will you stop this nonsense to get Beau Rilley into a game!

    need some help here to win 2 free lunch at Maple Garden – or both can attend/pay and I bring my wife which equals the same thing

    “What say you? {Lord of the Ring} Do we have an accord?” {Pirates of the Caribbean }


  67. jm2375 November 12, 2014 10:58 am

    Welcome to the new Warrior volleyball recruits!


  68. madeinhawaii November 12, 2014 10:58 am

    What a misleading poll. It makes it look like football is the sole reason that there is a 3.5 million dollar deficit.


  69. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 11:16 am

    well, to be honest, star advertiser isn’t exactly the bastion of hard hitting, thought provoking journalism. so the poll questions don’t surprise me. civil beat actually does much more interesting things with their journalism.


  70. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 11:17 am

    made in hawaii… FOOTBALL is the sole reason for the deficit…
    what with the omelet.. n steak every monday morning… sleeping in
    kahala hilton before home games…charter flights…etc… etc… the list goes on n on..BJ IS THE ONE that provides them to ‘much’ me thinks…they should sleep in cots before games…n take red eye flights.. those planes with volkswagen engines…BJ should learn to conserve…no give furniture to coaches…trip the schollie checks..is ok they sleep in locker room…but turn off the hot water…maybe omelet once or twice a year…stuff like that.. should help..


  71. madeinhawaii November 12, 2014 11:30 am

    I didn’t know that UH gets millions in revenue from sports logo wear that is sold outside of the H-Zone that is not credited to the Athletics department.

    from an older KITV article:
    “The University of Hawaii at Manoa gets about $500 million each year from the state. It could dedicate more of that money to athletics.
    It could also allow the program to get millions in revenue from sports logo wear that is sold outside of the campus H Zone.”

    Read more: http://www.kitv.com/news/what-happens-to-uh-football-revenue/27608360#ixzz3ItKDsWfM


  72. madeinhawaii November 12, 2014 11:32 am

    Wait, st. anthony! … furniture was donated, remember? Could have a fire sale.. still pretty new…


  73. Shoko November 12, 2014 11:38 am

    Both football and basketball spent more than they made the past several years, all of which have contributed to the accumulated deficit. They may be considered revenue generators for most athletic departments but the reality is they have the potential to generate revenue. Most mid-major programs lose money if they’re not winning championships or making the postseason such as a BCS bowl or the NCAA tournament.


  74. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 11:41 am

    #68: must be all the soap that the football team is getting in the showers now that’s causing the deficit, too.


  75. Les November 12, 2014 11:44 am

    22. If the receivers can’t catch the ball and the line can’t block you could put Colt Brennan in there and the results would be the same.


  76. bowwar November 12, 2014 12:03 pm

    The problem with UH football is “performance”…In the business world, if you don’t perform, you get replaced. It’s next man up and Woolsey has had his chance. Besides, I think there is a “leadership” issue also involved and perhaps, getting a new leader at QB, might change the overall attitude. We saw a glimpse of that when both Higgins and Graham went in, everyone on the team “perked-up” and tried to “buy-in”. Similarly, the same philosophy should be exercised with the receivers. If they don’t catch, they sit…I’m sure there are other receivers including Bukoski and others, who have been in the program long enough to know how to catch a ball…Alot of it has to do with the right “attitude” more than anything else.

    Besides, Reilly came to Hawaii “to play” and NOT sit on the bench…The Redshirt year means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, as basically he’s been on “redshirt” for two years doing his Mormon mission. Unless the guy is totally inept, then I do think he should be given his chance to start/play. It seems like Ikaika is better coming off the bench anyway after he observes things from the sidelines and assesses things better.


  77. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 12:11 pm

    bowar…hit the nail on the HEAD…. WOEFUL leadership up there..from sum coaches..to even sum players..just going through the motions..like the haka..those of new zealand extraction….must have an upset stomach..when they see that on the field…n watch in disdain…


  78. harvey November 12, 2014 12:14 pm

    What does Duke Bukoski have to do to get some playing time? Give this guy a chance. Big, strong, tough and fast. The heart of a warrior. With that chance he will surprise a lot of people. I won’t be at all surprised.


  79. tom-warriornation November 12, 2014 12:16 pm

    Reilly should start this week at SJSU to give him a chance–if the team is not making first downs; then simply put Woolsey back in. I have always said you never know what kind of player you have until he goes under the lights!


  80. bowwar November 12, 2014 12:18 pm

    Another note…I’ve been watching a number of football teams across the nation showing NO HESITANCY in using their 3rd-4th string QBs. Watched the Toledo University game on ESPN, and they used their 3rd-4th string QBs due to injuries and did fairly well. Anyone who “competes” will want to get into the game…Likewise, they should be given the opportunity if their team mate is not performing.


  81. BigWave96744 November 12, 2014 12:20 pm

    Z, #15, whether Beau plays or reshirts this season, he has to sit out next year if he transfers.

    BTW, I’m not shocked about Duke’s TD. He should have been getting PT since Game 1. FREEDUKE


  82. FCWarrior November 12, 2014 12:21 pm

    For all intents and purposes, the season is over. Second team, third team, scout players should have an opportunity to play and gain experience in a real game setting.


  83. Kanak November 12, 2014 12:24 pm

    I too don’t understand why Chow hasn’t at least tried Reilly in the mop up time. Just don’t buy into the preserve the redshirt year deal for him. It won’t matter if Wittek or Zwahlen end up being the guy for next year as predicted, Reilly will just be buried on the depth chart anyway. If he shows show kind of, any kind of spark at QB spot, we gotta try um don’t you think? C’mon Chow… GO BOWS!!!


  84. bowwar November 12, 2014 12:25 pm

    #75 Trojan…I’m glad you brought up the “haka” observation…I thought I was the only one who noticed that “some” of the Warriors, was doing “any kine ways” when doing the haka. I think it’s both an insult to the New Zealand/Polynesian culture if you’re not doing it with “conviction”, then DON’T DO IT AT ALL!!! Doing the haka is supposed to “mean something”…Probably same could be said about playing for the Warriors and the State of Hawaii.


  85. hatakeman November 12, 2014 12:44 pm

    4-Prong, what about the Ivy League? They field football teams and maintain a rich tradition in football and all sports, plus some that most P5 schools don’t field like lacrosse, fencing, skiing and rowing. In fact Harvard fields 20 men’s and 20 women’s teams for a total of 40 teams that include some unusual sports for women such as rugby. Harvard apparently considers athletics an integral and important part of a students’ academic curriculum and college experience. And its not about money. It’s about a good education.


  86. jeezy33 November 12, 2014 12:53 pm

    76. I don’t think Beau wants to waste a year of eligibility to play a few snaps in a meaningless season. That would be messed up by Chow in my opinion to do that.


  87. Inyoface November 12, 2014 1:01 pm

    At least we light it up in practice. Undefeated baby!


  88. al November 12, 2014 1:02 pm

    Bring back Oliver lee as AD?

    Professor Lee was known as the anti-war professor. Poli science.


  89. Shoko November 12, 2014 1:02 pm

    Would be crazy if Woolsey got hurt in the next to last game of the season and Reilly is called up and performs exceptionally well giving Chow his first road win of his head coaching career.

    I can only imagine the uproar of the fan base questioning why he wasn’t put in earlier. 😆


  90. al November 12, 2014 1:04 pm

    By staying off the field beau has options to find another place if he wanted to next year.


  91. Shoko November 12, 2014 1:06 pm

    86. Ooops, make that Chow’s second road win of his head coaching career. Warriors are going to win this weekend.


  92. al November 12, 2014 1:10 pm

    These polls always bring out the clueless vote.
    They should follow your response with “do you attend football games?


  93. al November 12, 2014 1:11 pm

    88. Second?


  94. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 1:11 pm

    Hatakeman: harvard also doesn’t give out athletic scholarships or compete in post-season playoffs. They also play in FCS, so not major division I FBS, and don’t stand to make as much money off of their athletics program anyway. If their athletic dept is running in the red, well they have a $36.4B endowment.

    my comments on football as Big Business deals with major football programs in division I-A (FBS) and those trying to compete in it. How can football be about education when UH’s graduation rate is 40% among football players, and major football factory programs have a graduation rate that’s usually less than 60%? in fact, schools like alabama are NOTORIOUS for using up their “student-athletes” and then kicking them to the curb after their eligibility is done while raking in millions off of their labor.

    so right now, you’re comparing apples to an orange that looks almost like an apple, but isn’t.


  95. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 1:14 pm

    that’s not to say that EVERY D-IA sport is only about the money with abysmal graduation rates. But when you start getting into the big time sports like football or basketball, that’s when you start seeing strange things happen with all of those dollars.


  96. al November 12, 2014 1:16 pm

    The deficit is because of the “non-profits” of the athletic program.


  97. Shoko November 12, 2014 1:18 pm

    Chow first road win this weekend. His second will be against Fresno State with Reilly taking the snaps.

    Just realized today is the initial early signing day for basketball. No news is bad news?


  98. madeinhawaii November 12, 2014 1:25 pm

    That athletic department isn’t suppose to turn a profit. The subsidy from UH isn’t enough to ensure that. That’s why the AD has incentives in his salary for certain goals being made. One big one is balancing the budget.

    Frasier did a good job of hiding some of those deficits, it seems.

    If they wanted to see the Athletic Department balance and succeed at the same time, they should have raised the subsidy more on par with other schools of this size and factor in the travel subsidies paid out when they joined the MWC and Big West, as well as, the added cost of running the program out of Hawaii(COLA) . We should be the highest subsidized school in the MWC/Big West. Not middle.. not bottom (Big West), for sure.


  99. jeezy33 November 12, 2014 1:44 pm

    94. Do you need to get your eyes checked?


  100. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 1:46 pm

    I posted this yesterday, but it’s germane to the conversation we got going:

    Aloha all-with all this talk between the balance (well, in balance) of academics and athletics, this is an interesting article–University of Michigan President Mark Schlissel told a group of faculty Monday the school has admitted athletes who weren’t skilled enough to be students at the public institution, the Michigan Daily reports.

    Speaking before the Senate Advisory Committee on University Affairs, a faculty governance group, Schlissel lamented how too many football players were coming to the prestigious public university who weren’t academically ready to be in college.

    “We admit students who aren’t as qualified, and it’s probably the kids that we admit that can’t honestly, even with lots of help, do the amount of work and the quality of work it takes to make progression from year to year,” Schlissel said. “These past two years have gotten better, but before that, the graduation rates were terrible, with football somewhere in the 50s and 60s when our total six-year rate at the university is somewhere near 90 percent. So that’s a challenge.”

    Schlissel spoke for the first time since the university’s athletic director, Dave Brandon, was forced out from Michigan. Schlissel was also speaking in light of a University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill report showing two decades of academic fraud, especially concentrated in that school’s football program, released in late October.

    Schlissel suggested athletics at Michigan were trumping academics, and complained that no one is following the 20.5 hours per week limit set by the NCAA for how much time athletes can spend practicing in-session, according to the Detroit Free Press.

    A CNN analysis earlier this year found most schools have between 7 and 18 percent of revenue sport athletes — football or basketball — who are reading at an elementary school level. CNN requested information from UM on the ACT or SAT scores of athletes playing football or basketball, or the number of specially admitted athletes, but the university said in May it did not have documents with that material.

    “The incentives are really strong for them to be as successful on the field as possible, and some of those are in dollars and others are in performance,” Schlissel said. “If we had won Nobel Prizes this year, we wouldn’t have gotten as much attention as did our A.D. It’s sad but it’s really true.”


  101. Ipu Man November 12, 2014 1:47 pm

    I think someone mentioned it a while back, but…
    have Mark Takai get with the President and push
    for “The Barak Obama Stadium Library”—
    a student learning center, and gym, under a 45,000 seat
    new stadium, with plenty of parking and, oh yes,
    with Obama’s memorabilia.
    Go to Mark. Time is getting short…


  102. Sofaking_blk November 12, 2014 1:51 pm

    There’s only 3 games left in the season, it makes absolutely no sense to play Reilly now.


  103. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 1:57 pm

    yea al.. he was AD 4 one year i think…n larry price was his coach…maybe the 2nd year larry was coaching..he was temporary or sum thing like that..not to garan… memory kinda fuzzy here…to much boko juice he he he


  104. Andrew November 12, 2014 2:06 pm

    Well to even further be separated from out competition, did anyone else hear that interview on This Week in the Mountain West with the Boise State head coach? They are going to start giving their athletes full cost of attendance similarly to what the power 5 schools are going to do.


  105. Da Punchbowl Kid November 12, 2014 2:08 pm

    I remember Beau’s highlights those years ago. He looked amazing. Let him play. If he performs well, then we have momentum going into the spring and fall of next year. Get him some game reps and let’s see what we got. Nothing to lose at this point.

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  106. cocobean November 12, 2014 2:08 pm

    Chow should widen his bench at the WR positions. I think Ewaliko, King and Bukoski should be given the opportunity to prove themselves. I would go 4 wide every so often to get at least one of them on the field. We don’t need a TE on every play.


  107. Andrew November 12, 2014 2:09 pm

    separated from our competition*


  108. Shoko November 12, 2014 2:09 pm

    96. Granted the Warriors haven’t performed up to par (putting it lightly), SJSU is not exactly a powering their way through the conference let alone their division. So, yeah, I think Warriors have a chance.

    As far as a win against Fresno State on the road, that might be a big stretch making my comment not to be taken less seriously.


  109. 4-Prong November 12, 2014 2:11 pm

    Boola: that’s why all of the lawsuits against the NCAA, votes to unionize (crazy what happens when you give football players and education at Northwestern), and the Power-5 threatening to break away from the NCAA and form their own league is so interesting to me. It could eventually mean the death of major college athletics as we know it… but maybe that might be a good thing.


  110. st. anthony trojan November 12, 2014 2:13 pm

    maybe we should offer a ‘HULA HULA’ lady in every room….


  111. 3-Prong November 12, 2014 2:41 pm

    Good article on local boys at Pacific in Oregon. SA should do one on the long relationship that Linfield College has with local players. The Cats ongoing winning season streak owes a lot to Local Bruddahs!

    Showdown Saturday. Da Boxers are comin off! hehe


  112. Boolakanaka November 12, 2014 5:34 pm

    3prong, dats a grip of local players PU has–win or lose, you gotta give them credit for representing!


  113. 3-Prong November 12, 2014 6:00 pm

    Boo, no kidding. Their concerted effort to “Buy Local” is paying off. Cannot beat the heart and live of the game in Hawaii boys. Great opportunity for all the local kids to continue playing and to get a good education at the same time. No need be d1 ball. It’s all about competition.


  114. 3-Prong November 12, 2014 6:01 pm

    Live = love


  115. jeezy33 November 12, 2014 6:49 pm

    105. If our defense was playing like the first few games then maybe have a chance… But our LBs have sucked badly ever since Gener went down. Losing JWG was tough, but losing both JGW and Gener just crippled us at LB and the drop off with back ups is very big. Our cornerback play is atrocious which is why the coaches are offering over 10 JC corners so far. San Jose St. has too many weapons for us to even have a chance. Iosefa has to go for 200 to be in the game.


  116. Inyoface November 12, 2014 8:39 pm

    If we want to win on the road, San jose should be our best shot. Fresno will be a difficult place to play although not unbeatable. Got to come out firing on all cylinders.


  117. cocobean November 12, 2014 8:48 pm

    I wish the offensive coaches were more inclusive when it comes to personnel. It seems to me only Naole has shown a willingness to give others a chance to play. The others seem to be hiding behind the phrase….”he gives us the best chance of winning.” It true of the QB and WR positions. Injuries are the only way players like King and Joas have gotten on the field. Bukoski and Anguay have not been given a chance to prove themselves. I really feel a more experienced coaching staff would make better use of all the players they have.

    Sometimes smaller quicker slots and wideouts can get more separation creating a bigger window for the QB. Ewaliko has shown glimpses but is not used on a regular basis. Instead racking their brains watching film to find solutions they should be looking at their bench and figuring what’s the best way to use their undersized but quicker players. Donnie King did well when he was given a chance. Why not use him more and take a look Anguay and Bukoski also. I think they’ll be more of a help instead always having a TE.


  118. 808WarriorFan November 12, 2014 8:53 pm

    That concerns me about Norm…he’s not a good judge of talent…give those backups more game time and see what they can do under the lights and not in a scrimmage. Heck if Beau gives us a chance to beat SJSU …DO IT…


  119. BigWave96744 November 12, 2014 9:26 pm

    Al, #90, please explain as compared to my #81


  120. champ November 12, 2014 9:49 pm

    too late to play reilly already. JJ would have put him in after around 3 games, or at least alternate them and develop a pckg for Wools. Also, heard Reilly can run as well. Probs have arisen due to the lack of flexibility by our HC. Perhaps, our HC doesnt know how to develop diff pkgs. Like everybody is realizing now, what if our HC is not around next year? Whats going to happen to the QB promise land that supposedly is being saved for next year? Auwe! Cabbage already!


  121. 808 November 12, 2014 9:54 pm

    #71. Interesting read and business model. UH football makes money on Saturday’s. But, the state takes it away and someone else benefits from the income they bring in.

    The poll question in today’s star advertiser asked what should be done about football referencing it to the 3.5 million deficit in athletics. Football makes the money and the state takes it away. The question in the poll implies that football is the cause of the deficit.

    I hope they can eventually revisit this model. Since both UH and Aloha Stadium are both state entities, let UH keep all the money and allow UH athletics to have a better chance to balance their athletic budget. At the same time the state can subsidize Aloha Stadium for the maintenance and other cost to run the stadium. Does it really matter if Aloha stadium runs in the red and that it needs to be subsidized by the state.

    Take away UH football completely and you take away all the income it generates. Also, all other non-revenue sports would be gone.

    It seems like there are so many people at UH or within the state that influence decision making. Change the business set up and allow UH to keep all the money they receive on Saturday’s and have the state appropriate money to Aloha Stadium to maintain it.

    Until then, UH football will always be blamed for the deficit. I think if everyone sees the revenue football brings in including the money it generates from parking, concessions, and any sale of items related to football, I don’t the think the public would be saying or thinking, why is UH football in a deficit.

    Lastly, UH should hire people in athletics and upper campus to do the jobs they have been hired to do. If UH can minimize the amount of influence from outside interest groups or influentiaal power brokers and allow those in charge to do their job, maybe UH athletics would run more efficiently.

    There were times in the past, UH admin spent money for buyouts and for the Wonder blunder mess up like they had the ability to print money. I think this is temporary. Chow’s era will pass and football will be back to winning again. I hope UH admin will be able to steward the school’s money better in the future.


  122. cappie the dog November 12, 2014 10:02 pm

    I thought it was disingenuous of Coach Chow to claim that he is open to the idea of switching quarterbacks on the latest “Call the Coach” show. Although Sean Schroeder asserted himself well last season, I distinctly remember feeling tortured by his play during his junior campaign. He literally took every snap, didn’t he? Or it just felt that way.


  123. Willie November 12, 2014 10:55 pm

    #117, Davone Bess was under 6 feet, super quick, knew how to get open and had excellent hands.

    Kemp is 6′ 4″, maybe pretty fast after 30 yards, not quick, cannot get much separation, rounds his routes and uses his body to catch. He got below average hands when he actually tries to use them.

    Hey, old time saying for a receiver “you touch it, you better catch it”! In addition to Davone; Grice-Mullen, Salas, Branch, Roscoe and Lelie had great hands too.


  124. Inyoface November 12, 2014 11:07 pm

    Rivers was a great receiver also.


  125. kev-1 November 12, 2014 11:42 pm

    If Chow had any hope of saving his job, he would play Reilly. Especially if he has a chance to provide some sort of spark. If he plays well, people will start clamoring for next year and the notion of keeping Chow would be easier to swallow for some.


  126. kev-1 November 12, 2014 11:43 pm

    I think they should bulk Kemp up over the off season and move him to TE. He is too slow for a WR, but would be a pretty quick TE.


  127. Stephen Tsai November 13, 2014 6:34 am

    Ding, ding, ding.
    New post: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=25977


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