Blue period
One of my favorite tombstones reads: “I told you I was sick.”
Who really knew BYU was serious about leaving the MWC to go independent in football and transplanting its other sports into another conference? But BYU did just that in reaching an agreement with the West Coast Conference. Of course, in the process it deflated the WAC and MWC …
Will BYU stay put? Right up until the Big 12 or Pac-10 calls. But if you’re the WCC, a few dates with the super model is better than none at all.
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For UH, there’s that slight glitch in the plan of going independent in football and joining the Big West in other sports: The Big West hasn’t extended any invitation.
UH is the guy outside trying to bribe the bouncer.
Could UH eventually receive an invitation? Sure. But the buy-in will be hefty. UH just doesn’t have enough leverage.
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Enough of that. Back to football.
The Warriors have their depth chart and game plans in place for tomorrow’s opener. If left wideout Rodney Bradley can go the distance, then Darius Bright is on a need-to-play basis.
It should be interesting if slotback Greg Salas will be used as a defensive back in certain situations. I don’t think it’s necessary since freshman Bubba Poueu-Luna probably could fill that role. But if it came down to Salas being needed in that role, it will mean the game is on the line late in the fourth quarter.
1st
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good to see that many of the true frosh will be getting real opportunities.
The WCC will enjoy their extra ESPN TV money while BYU is in their conference.
The Big 12 is expected to add 2 teams in a couple of years (TV deal will be up and Colorado and Nebraska will have paid their exit fees).
I’m officially done talking about conference realignment until after the USC game is over.
what time is the press conference that benson is hosting?
any broadcasts? or play by play?
top 10.
aloha wednesday all.
cheepono out.
that is a great idea garret.
Using Salas at slot, punt returner, and DB might be a tough load…but Salas would probably just be used at DB on hail mary and other long yardage situations on D so it wouldn’t be too much for him.
Top 10
Whoa! I’m here
ST woke up. ST can you please wake up CL, so she can put out a new blog.
…早安, 爸爸…
Pomai…
Warriors 41 Troy 24….
okay so let’s talk football as the host suggests.
for me, i have been watching the university of hawaii since the old honolulu stadium days when they played anybody who could afford the trip. some came from places and campuses we never heard of before.
i continue to watch them even against all odds like many are saying tomorrow’s contest will be. win, lose, or draw nothing gets the blood going more than to watch the home team.
and i go because, just in case we pull off the mission impossible, i was there to witness and feel that exhilaration that can only be experienced in person.
whoa jojo…but will you be there tomw?
15thst
17thst?
Lane Kiffin explained why USC won’t have a walk through at Aloha Stadium or any other road stadium.
I’ll be there tomorrow, time TBD
i would never use salas on defense. i think we have enough depth and talent. however, that is not the reason.
playing on offense especially slotback for the university of hawaii. you are accustomed to getting hit and prepare yourself for the hit and the like.
however, there is a huge difference in getting hit and delivering a hit. do you risk your impact player? has he praticed hitting in the open field these days?
…this is not intramural football.
USC’s starting OL will have a total of *3* practices together before the UH game. I’m sure that the defensive package that Dave Aranda sets up will try to maximize confusion with USC’s OL…that OL might not be a cohesive unit for a few weeks, so UH may be able to exploit that.
I don’t think that I’ve ever heard of a team as high-profile as USC that is so thin at OL. Holmes will start at G against UH despite his neck injury.
Good morning!!!
so the az cardinals are shopping out matt leinhart who lost the starting job to derek anderson.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Matt-Leinart-being-shopped-by-Arizona-Cardinals
my first thought was, oh no not the raiders.
Traffic goin’ be bad. Real bad.
Good morning!
IS IT THURSDAY YET?
Kekoa – you set up to do some stealth recon today? 🙂
Decisions, decisions, which logo shirt to wear tomorrow. Anyone who is driving to the game and wants to trick out your ride, the Ward Warehouse Rainbowtique still has some of those mini-flags with the plastic antenna that fit in your car window. Both the white flag with the H and the pebbled football-color flag.
The WAC announced the details of the scheduling deal with BYU. Utah State isn’t part of this because they already have BYU scheduled. I don’t know why only Idaho is getting BYU for basketball.
By they way, I haven’t seen an announcement from UH but Mack told a UH fan via e-mail that UH wants its fans to wear green to the USC game.
Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂
One more day gangeez, one more day!
What time do they open the stadium for parking tomorrow?
psst…
a certain phantom blogger (according to ST) has friends who say the USC team is in their hotel… not the Ihilani…
With the reports of injuries on USC’s team, and the lack of practice time together for the OL, we got chance! But it could all be diversionary tactics…
GO WARRIORS!!!
DPK, are you going to make the T-Gate? and the game?
#28 – Will be there wearin’ the GREEN!!!
A HUI (hi) HOU!
It’s official. The Latvian 7-footer transfered to UH from USC.
http://www.hawaiiathletics.com/news/2010/9/1/MBB_0901102827.aspx
Redzone – #30
Speaking of dual duties, Stanford has a guy that will be the starter at Fullback and Middle Linebacker.
This guy has some lungs.
Wow
Double wow wow.
WARRIORS-28
trojans -21
GO WARRIORS!!
It’s time to surrender Hawaii ,wave the white flag no one wants you . Stuck in the WAC with Karl Benson and some Micky Mouse schools.
Think about you are right back where you started in 1979.
jm2375:
#34 It seems like a good get for Gib, also good that he has to sit out this year, transfer rules. Can use this year to put on about 40+ lbs, via weight training. Real skinny right now at 215# and being 7’0.
If Fresno and Nevada do not want to pay the 5 mil., maybe a deal could be struck, they go to the MWC and the WAC gets San Diego St. and UNLV. It is well known San Diego St. wants out of the MWC. Also, C-USA, can get LA Tech, and the WAC gets UTEP.
ESPN1420AM is broadcasting Benson’s teleconference live at 10:00AM.
#35 CoolEthan, another player who split duties was the USU quarterback a few seasons ago, if memory serves he also was a kicker and did pretty well, although the team did not have such a good record that year.
…just putting it out there…
The Hawaii Tourism Aurthority (HTA) with a budget of over 62 million spent 6.7 million on sports marketing in 2009…including the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl…it may serve UH Athletics well to build a relationship with this entity to explore ways in which both their missions could be accomplished….
…board members of HTA include executives from Aston Hotels and the Ritz Carlton…
WHoosh!
Hey, Mrs. BigHiloFan says the silver fox may be coming tomorrow but no mo game ticket. Anyone get extra?
Whoosh!
re #40
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player#/live/?callsign=KKEAAM
…as a few of you might know, i support independence because i think it represents great potential…but it will take creativity and support from a variety of entities to make it successful….
Last night on the Call the Coach segment with Greg McMackin, he said that UH has 14 football commits for next year. It is very interesting because no newspapers or internet news has said that UH has any commits for next year. Now, maybe I’m all wet or Coach Mac is not telling everthing, but I read the Star Advertiser every day and check the web sites every day about football recruiting. In fact, UH has no verbal commitments announced.
Conversely, Boise St. has 11 commitments, SMU has 18 and all WAC school have at least one commit. Now, maybe UH does have 14 commitments but they are not announcing it or the recruits have not come out and actually said in public that they are commiting to UH. I really think that prospects are on the fence with UH because of the all the turmoil going on with the WAC, MWC, etc. Uncertainty breeds insecurity. This is not good. Jim Donovan, I hope, realizes it and must make some hard decisions on the future of UH programs.
With a number of true and redshirt freshman possibly playing this year quality minutes I hope it’s a good sign that these players are showing that the coaches have done a good job in evaluating the talent level to be good players, such as Sampson and Hardy-Tuliau. What is the evaluation of Kody Afusia and Dee Maggitt?
What football players are not playing this year, but are slated to be grayshirts for 2011?
Good morning everyone!
I’m ready for the tailgate and game .
Who is this lady that facilitates each question on the conference call?
Was she the cat that messed up the Nevada signature thing?
ST, I thought UH and BYU are already scheduled to play in 2011 and 2012, even before this announcement, is that now void?
Returning to yesterday’s comments about the University administration’s support of intercollegiate athletics.
For starters – the people who are UH administrators TODAY are different than they were three years ago. The current System president, MRC Greenwood, came on board just a little over a year ago.
The Chancellor began working for UH in August, 2007, and had no say in policies passed prior to her employment.
Jim Donovan began his job as head of the Department of Athletics in March, 2008.
Of the 15 members on the Board of Regents, only two of them were on the Board in the fall of 2007 when UH had its winning streak.
Click http://www.hawaii.edu/admin/regents/index.php?regent=fukunaga to read their full biographies.
There is a new attitude at UH-Manoa towards higher education in general, but combining the huge revenue shortfalls the entire state is facing along with the conference turmoils is going to make it very, very difficult to do anything but react.
As for raising funds to support UH’s athletics programs, it will be very difficult to get something going quickly – even though people are already scrambling to get things covered.
Remember,System President Greenwood has turned over the management oversight of the Department of Athletics to the Chancellor’s office.
I STRONGLY urge that people who have concerns about the future of UH-Manoa intercollegiate athletics programs to get involved in the decision-making process. Contact Keith Amemiya, Interim Executive Administrator and Secretary of the Board of Regents
2444 Dole Street, Bachman Hall, Room 209, Honolulu, HI 96822. Tel (808)956-8213;
fax (808)956-5156; email bor@hawaii.edu
Another option would to “hire” someone with extensive experience working with the Legislature and others who can help you be much more effective in having an impact on UH athletics in general. This is what the “Big Boys & Girls” do when dealing with the “Big Muckamuckas.”
Upcoming Regents meetings
September 16, 2010 Kapi‘olani Community College
October 28, 2010 John A. Burns School of Medicine (JABSOM)
November 18, 2010 University of Hawai‘i – Maui College
January 20, 2011 University of Hawai‘i at Manoa
February 24, 2011 Honolulu Community College
March 17, 2011 University of Hawai‘i at Hilo
April 21, 2011 University of Hawai‘i at Manoa
May 19, 2011 University of Hawai‘i at West Oahu
Before I head on to work, please remember to bring your HI-5 cans & bottles to tomorrow’s T-Gate. The initial recipient of your donations will the the football summer school scholarship program.
Also, for those of you who are interested in supporting the PLANT A NATIVE TREE Campaign, we have scheduled three community-based fundraisers so far with others to be confirmed.
For more information, click on my name above.
Where you can REALLY help out is to suggest locally-owned restaurants or catering facilities on the North Shore, Central O`ahu, Aiea-Pearl City, Waipahu, Ewa, Kapolei, Waianae Coast, and the urban core between Moanalua and Kahala.
We have to raise $23,000 between now & October 10 to cover the costs of the PLANT Campaign.
For those who want to know I found the stadium parking info at the Aloha Stadium website. See link.
http://alohastadium.hawaii.gov/aloha-stadium-gears-up-for-uh-vs-usc
derek…well the names of the 14 commits must be a well kept and guarded secret that only mack knows. people on the proverbial street have nothing to report in this subject matter.
al,
Thinking like you. Keep Salas off the field when Hawaii playing defense.
….don’t know if they kept it in the playbook but if I was play-calling for SC and saw him on the field, it would be “Student Body Salas” on the next snap!
…btw, just got outta meetings.
Anything worthwhile said at the presser by Benson?
#56
Same Sh!+. Different day.
He still does not know what he is doing, and neither do any of the AD from the remaining 6 schools for allow him to continue being their commissioner.
See it!
Believe it!
Do it!
Go Warriors!
Beat USC!
#51…WassupDoc….great info…mahalos…:>
LizKauai…thanks for the radio feed…
Mahalo!
In that case, like hawaii808 says:
GO WARRIORS!
GO WARRIORS!!!!! And have a great TG tomorrow Tsai-ko’s!!!!!!!!!
HTA has members with Aston and Ritz Carlton Hotel Chain but UH is partnered with Marriott and Outrigger, can they work together to benefit all of Hawaii through sponsorship and media blitz of UH football. AD Mc Namara wants all UH activities to utilize only the corporate sponsors that affiliate with UH, and that is the Marriott and the Outrigger, so will the people at HTA want to spend their money to benefit only two hotel chains. Just asking? Where’s Bulla’s better half and PowderPuff?
Karl Benson’s press conference today explained why Idaho is the only WAC school to get a home-and-home scheduling deal with BYU for basketball. Idaho is not getting a home game with BYU–they will play in Provo in 2011 and have no home game with BYU (probably because their football stadium is too small). So, they play a football and basketball game at BYU and just get a basketball game in return with no money thrown in…Idaho got the worst deal from this.
Benson said that WAC teams will *not* get any money for traveling to BYU for a football game because of the home-and-home arrangement. Since BYU is taking BSU’s place in the schedule for 2011, BYU should be coming to Aloha Stadium in 2011.
I’ve read that BYU’s game at La Tech will be held in Shreveport, not Ruston.
A home game with BYU in 2011 would be an *excellent* way to fill the last puka in the schedule.
i wonder what sort of reaction the crowd will give benson tomorrow as he walks around the sidelines.
Garret:
Did UH already have a deal with BYU for future games?
JD wii sell you out and sign new loyalty agreement.
Steve,
UH had a deal with BYU for 2012 and 2013, but no BYU scheduled for 2011. I’m hoping that the BYU game in 2011 will be at Aloha Stadium (that would give UH a lot of money), especially since BYU isn’t paying any WAC team to play at their stadium in this deal.
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Garret:
#70 If I heard correctly the 2011 game would be in Hawaii, since Boise St. was suppose to come to Hawaii in 2011. I hope that is true, it would be a huge payday for UH, and many bucks for Hawaii Tourism. Much more then Boise fans would have coughed up.
Garret:
Where was the 2012 and 2013 games with BYU suppose to be played at?
Agree with Anonymous Too. Anonymous has to learn how to use spell and grammer check.
9/8/12: UH at BYU
9/14/13: BYU at UH
Re #44 – Mahalo Tsai-ko! – BHF2 is ticketed per emails…
My favorite tombstone says, “Tombstone Original Supreme” pizza.
My main concern with Salas is that he will be gassed by returning punts and running route after route on offense. Now there’s mention of him possibly on defense in certain situations? I’d rather he be at 100% on offense. We’re all looking for him to have a banner year. Maybe because this might be his only chance on national TV to show what he has, against a BCS team on top of that.
#42… Hank… I remember a post by WDoc maybe a week or two ago concerning a sort of task force between the Capital and HTA in trying to figure out some joint advertising plan. If I recall correctly, it was something that had taken place a while ago. I hope someone will add in the details or correct me if I’m wrong… but the players may have included UH, Airlines, Hotels, the HTA, and some Legislators. With all of the recent changes to the collegiate landscape, and nothing solidly in place yet concerning UH’s future, I’d guess any future planning must be put on hold for the moment, until we know exactly what’s going on.
Garret… please keep your posts coming! I really appreciate the information you dig up for us. I miss those 5-off-topic posts as a break in action.
You guys here about that guy who got shot taking hostages at the Discovery Channel in Maryland. I just heard that guy is from Hawaii. Specifically, it was mentioned that he was from Maui. Interesting no?
Anyway, one more day Warriors!
Re #47 UH cannot disclose or discuss commitments.
BYU 3 years in a row and 2 at Aloha, how grand is that.
Thank you, Garret, for info.
#67
Benson should not roam the sidelines. Then again he will probably be wearing a green Under Armour shirt and cap.
I expect to hear:
“BENSON you (insert swear word here) IDIOT”
“WHAT THE (insert swear word here) are you doing?”
“Thanks BENSON for turning the WAC into cow (insert swear word here)!”
“(Insert swear word here) YOU! BENSON!”
“The Project? Well, Benson your Project just went to the (insert swear word here)”
“BENSON! Next time, keep your (insert swear word here) shut you damn (insert swear word here)!”
“Hey Karl, wanna play fantasy football with me?”
I also expect many token middle fingers and perhaps a projectile or two.
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Wow, based on the discontent, it would be a good idea for Benson have armed guards. 😆
Did he give his press conference yet?
#69, There are so many different ways to look at all the possibilities of where UH is headed. Although I have my opinion I’m not totally sure where UH should go. I really believe in JD and whatever avenue he takes us. I will trust him that he looked into the different avenues and his decision would be the best for UH. Yes, I am tired of Benson, but after hearing what the WAC was planning, Benson had the right idea but maybe his process was screwed up. But maybe a change is needed too.
Benson can’t hire armed guards for the life of him.
They will vow to protect him throughout the game. But when Hawaii has a lead they will ask if they can get a Churro and never return.
#58 Steve – it is not up to the AD’s it’s the presidents who run the show.
Know what I don’t care where we end up, I’m still going to the games, rooting for the boys, an watching all the away games. This is our team, our boys who are playing their hearts out, not the WAC, MWC, ESPN or any of the other money changers. Question is are you a fan or not, sorry no gray area, so either your on the wagon or your not pretty simple if you ask me.
Throughout all this WAC stuff I’ve learned:
Never invite Karl Benson to a surprise party.
His kids know what they are getting for Xmas by Halloween.
Pomai
I’m with you,
as long as the men & women of University of Hawaii are playing,
they’ll have my support
#88 Pomai. Strong, but good. Will back up UH whatever or wherever.
Only a true Hawaii fan cares more about the athletic department, then just a football game, or team.
Don’t forget to turn the lights out when you leave the WAC.
UH should extend their contracts with Army and Navy, ask AD Haden for a long term USC deal, and reaffirm BYU’s commitment to a long term deal by signing a contract, and now JD should look for a few more teams to extend or add games in a proactive move in case UH goes independent. He needs to start locking in long term deals now rather than after announcing independence when the WAC folds.
Steve if their where no student athletes then there would be no athletic department. It’s all about the kids, nothing else, an they are getting screwed.
#95 I agree with you there, Pomai, about the kids, and yes, they are getting screwed. They have committed to UH for at least 4 years, but are not getting the same commitment back.
UH vs USC on ESPN on 5 pm and 9 pm rebroadcast. Great exposure for UH and Hawaii Nei. Wait a minute, that’s 11 pm and 3 am on the east coast, hopefully most of our tourists are coming from west of the Mississippi and Canada. 🙂
I think extending contracts with Navy and Army is doable considering the large military population in Hawaii.
Many on this blog should be on an advisory committee for Mr. J.D. You must think his mind is just a brand new coloring book that just needs some filling in with crayons.
All of this WAC thing can be worked out real simply. Even exchange, Fresno and Nevada, for San Diego St. and UNLV, between WAC and MWC. LA Tech, for UTEP, WAC and C-USA. San Diego St. would gladly make the switch, so would UTEP.
How come the fans don’t blame themselves?
We could start by saying things like… I don’t wanna be an also ran.. I don’t want our ship to sink… so…
Let’s all raise the season ticket prices and donations to USC type levels… let’s all raise the soon to be activity fee… let’s all vote for luxury boxes and BCS type parking fees… yeah… then with all that extra moolah, let’s upgrade our campus facilities and programs… and really become the BCS busters we want to be…
Because quite frankly, I don’t know if the blame is all Benson’s… how much freedom does he have to think outside of the box? How long from the time he comes up with an idea to the time of implementation is there after all the members have had time to mull it over? Does he ever act on his own? Or does he need license to act from all the schools?
If we need to find blame… let’s all get enraged at the Fresno, Nevada, and Boise games!
Independence isn’t an option unless the Big West conference is willing to accept UH as a non-football member. There’s no indication (yet) that they are.
How many fans turned out for the Navy game last year? Is there enough to up the ante? I think a bunch of tickets were free for military personnel.
Anyone want to help the student athlete, you can, on September 18, at 9:30 am the softball coaches and players will do a make over at their stadium. They will do cleaning, power washing, painting and fixing the field, all in preparation for recruits visiting the following week. The softball program lone asset is the stadium, they don’t have the amenities of the SEC with a club house or on field locker rooms to show the girls, so that’s what needs to be up to par during the girls visit. It is also game day, Colorado on ppv, but you can always get a subscriber to tape it for you. Aloha
with BYU leaving the MWC, did anyone notice there’s now 10 in the MWC and 6 in the WAC. How about a new Western Mega Conference. I’ve got a West Div (Boise, Idaho, Hawaii, Nevada, UNLV, Fresno St, San Diego St) and East Div (TCU, LA Tech, New Mexico, New Mexico St, Colorado St, Air Force, Utah St, Wyoming). Travel in Division doesn’t get much more compact. We could have a Championship Game in NFL Stadium (Denver, Dallas, SF, Phoenix) or Hawaii.
madeinhawaii:
#101 We can get enraged at Nevada this season, and Fresno St. next season, but it will be hard against Boise, since UH will be playing at Boise.
UH does not have 14 commitments.
As far as I know, all of the “commitments” are grayshirts.
As far as I know.
Ralph:
#104 Will Kelly Majam be there?
ST, but Coach Mac said on his show, that he had 14 commitments for next year. You may have to dig further.
Not exactly sure what more the Commish can do or say.
WAC presidents make the rules; apparently they break ’em, too.
Independence? BYU has thought of that for a bit. It is its plan.
UH is considering independence as a means of coping. Bottom line: MWC isn’t inviting UH. Big West hasn’t made an offer. And I’m pretty sure the WAC wouldn’t miss UH if it left. Which is why it should stay put. What other options does it have?
While we’re at it, BYU needs the WAC teams to fill schedule for next two years. After that, let’s see how many WAC teams it will schedule. So, why help BYU now?
Army and Navy are booked for several years, but UH should start now and book them whenever they are open. June Jones wanted UH to play the armed services-Army, Navy and Air Force, on a regular basis but the Fumbler did not commit to a long term deal with the Academies. Hopefully JD sees it differently. JJ got Navy to commit to playing SMU. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t contact Ellerson at Army to negotiate a long term deal with the Army.
Why do I have to dig when I just told you the answer?
ST, it sounded like you were not completely sure.
ST, what do you think of the idea of San Diego St., UNLV, and UTEP coming over to the WAC in even exchange for teams Fresno St., Nevada, and LA Tech?
What happens to…. 29:09 til kick off!!!! Anyone getting jacked??? GO WARRIORS put a BEATING on USC
Norte Dame can afford to come to UH but they have their built in rivalries with USC, Stanford, the Academies, Michigan State, Purdue and Michigan. They have very few slots open, but UH should try for future games even if it is 6+ years down the line. Western Michigan and Tulsa are on their schedule, so ND is not limiting their schedule to BCS schools.
The WAC wouldn’t miss UH? Now that Boise, Fresno, and Nevada are out, you don’t consider Hawaii to be the WAC’s biggest draw (okay, maybe in football)? Are you serious? A lot of people read this blog for insight into UH sports and football in particular being the time of year. I think the host should have a bigger vision and more optimism regarding the home team. Staying in the WAC really diminishes UH’s potential.
Steve all the players will be there to participate, its what the players do to help the program. Come on out on the 18th, after a good work out you can take a short nap, rejuvenate and return to the Stanley to watch Na Wahine take on BYU
Wow, Michigan and Ohio St. in separate Big X divisions.
…relying on “crossover” games for yearly matchup.
So what can we realistically expect tomorrow night? The talent difference in this game is pretty drastic, but this USC team isn’t half as good as the last Trojans team to come to the islands. I’m expecting to lose something like 47-20, but wouldn’t be shocked if we only lose by 10-15 points.
Try to keep in mind that this is the same USC team that was annihilated by Stanford in SoCal by 34 points.
kev-1,
It took a lot of effort to get Hawaii into the conference. Despite present circumstances, what better long-term alternative does UH have?
I expect more major conference re-alignments in 2-3 years; IMHO it would be better for Hawaii to already be in a conference when that happens.
I heard about the Discovery Channel building hostage/shooting incident that took place in the DC/Maryland suburbs earlier today. I have a co-worker who lives two blocks from that building…and quickly recognized the location when it first popped up on the news outlets.
Luckily I’ve been in El Paso, TX for work all week, hence I wasn’t around when this situation took place. Heading up to PHX tomorrow for a few days before returning to DC…should be able to catch the UH/USC game while in Phoenix.
Does anyone know where Benson is staying while in Hawaii?
d1
I understand the security reasons of being in a conference, but that assumes the WAC will be around long term. I agree that there will be major conference changes, and I think when that happens, the WAC will crumble and if Hawaii is still in it, then what?
By adding in two FCS members to the WAC who have the wherewithal to jump up to FBS status in 2-3 years, is Hawaii really going to be any worse off than going independent and probably having to schedule at least 2 FCS opponents in those seasons anyway?
Adding two Texas teams probably keeps LaTech in the WAC. Without BY-Who I don’t think USU gets into the MWC.
With 5 FBS opponents in-conference, BY-Who, a rotation of one or two of the Service Academies, and other OOC matchups staying bowl-eligible continues to be do-able.
Steve,
Not sure….he had reservations but there was a “clerical error” and he had to change plans! 😆
kev-1,
Then I don’t see it being very much different anyway.
Wondering why everybody is skirting around the issue of San Diego St., UNLV, and UTEP coming into the WAC for Fresno St., Nevada, and LA Tech?
San Diego St. is not happy being in the MWC, and UTEP is not happy being in C-USA.
Steve,
I think Garret addressed that awhile ago.
Basically his point was, why would those 3 schools want to move?
I think SDS, UNLV, and UTEP would not make as much money coming to the WAC. No win situation for them.
The reason San Diego St. and UTEP would gladly make the move, they are not happy with how they are left out of TV games, in their current conferences. This is widely known. The only reason they do not move is their conferences buyout clause, but if they were to make deal, like an even swap, or exchange, they would gladly make the move.
NCAA:
They are not making much money in their current conferences, bottom of the pecking order there.
The WAC conference should make the deal now, especially with SDS and UNLV. This will forego a costly legal battle with Fresno St. and Nevada.
Steve,
If can, can.
If no can…
NauPauLunChauWah
Benson says that Fresno St. and Nevada cannot leave the WAC until the 2012-2013 athletic season, then why is ESPN reporting that those 2 schools will leave the WAC the same time as Boise St.
UH vs USC
0 – 66 roysan16
2 – 0 OldDiver
21 – 17 HNL
21 – 14 gigi
24 – 20 jm2375
24 – 28 NCAA
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 LizKauai
25 – 24 A-House
27 – 24 Steve
28 – 27 djmitcho
28 – 21 J-FORCE
30 – 28 wafan
30 – 47 Dennis Holloran
30 – 58 Pride
31 – 10 tom mui
31 – 28 bstunna2002
31 – 30 808ike
33 – 30 MP
34 – 27 papajoe2
34 – 31 lil.s
35 – 21 Pomai
35 – 31 DPK
35 – 24 Jack Flash
38 – 21 G (China)
38 – 24 chopsueybooy
41 – 31 Michigan Warrior
41 – 31 LK
41 – 38 Tyaiea
41 – 24 Hank
42 – 35 Tcahng
42 – 20 Unkanesson
45 – 34 greenthumb
45 – 28 al
47 – 42 NYUH
48 – 28 protector
56 – 14 d1shima
56 – 13 Kekoa
62 – 24 Ipu Man
Does ESPN know more about what is going on in the WAC then even Benson does as commissioner?
Excuse me but I do believe SDS,UNLV and just about everyone else has already said no.You guys are stuck with the Portland States of the world according to Benson’s plan.
MTW doesn’t have a buyout clause.
hmmm. Very interesting, Pomai. So Roysan and Pride believe UH will be slaughtered, but D1 and Ipu Man and Kekoa think USC will be slaughtered.
Who will win?
ST, by the way, will there be a prize for the winner on Pomai’s list?
Hawaii – 20
USC – 47
I wasn’t going to comment on expansion stuff but I thought I should point some things…there is NO buyout clause for SDSU to leave the MWC. They let anyone leave if they wish. SDSU would pay $0 to leave. So, if the only thing that is holding them back is a buyout clause they would already be in the WAC.
Nevada estimates that they will get between $1.2 million and $2 million more from the MWC than they have been getting from the WAC. That doesn’t even take into account how ESPN will decrease the TV money for the WAC after BSU leaves. ESPN is expected to show the WAC less after BSU leaves…BYU probably is going to get those ESPN appearances.
I live in San Diego and follow their news closely because I would love for them to be in the same conference as UH. But SDSU cannot afford to take less money from another conference and they bring no ESPN TV value for football so the dollars make no sense at all for SDSU to join the WAC.
C-USA’s TV deal is probably even better than the MWC’s TV deal since they get about the same amount of money and they keep their local TV rights for anything not on ESPN or CBS CS. Why would UTEP take $1.5 million to $2 million less to go to the WAC?
The MWC and C-USA share money equally among their teams. Their last place team gets 3x the TV money than the WAC average. Their NCAA basketball money is far more than the WAC and is shared equally. The bottom team gets the same as the top team.
Why does the MWC need to trade teams with the WAC? They already have BSU, Nevada and Fresno and any of their teams can leave for free if they wish.
I’ll leave the expansion comments to others now.
NMSU announced their home-and-home deal with BYU.
SI seems to have promoted Mouse Davis.
Therese Jasper reports:
The Rainbow Wahine Softball team will be recognized at the halftime of tomorrow’s USC game.
GOOD JOB LADIES!!! YOU DESERVE IT!!!
Not to mention we would be doing the MWC a favor by taking UNLV and SDSU. I would think those two bottom feeders would only help the MWC in their BCS quest as it would increase their rankings.
Steve. How can it be a trade if the MWC already have those teams committed? The only trade I could think of is eliminating the buyout and buy in fees for the 2 WAC schools. How does that benefit the 2 or 3 teams by supposedly joining the WAC? Our end of the year payout is less than what the MWC gives, so already the MWC teams joining the WAC, would be losing money. If they stay where they are and the MWC becomes and automatic BCS qualifier, then their end of the year payout will be even bigger. With BYWho leaving the MWC, how many teams will the MWC have if SDState and UNLV joins the WAC? I think that would make it 8 teams. With the 10 teams currently, the match ups and travel partners would be just right. It would be more sensible for the MWC to add 2 teams, giving it 12, than losing 2 and making it 8. With 12 teams the MWC could make 2 divisions, like east and west and have a more lucrative playoff. One of the negatives with that would be splitting the pie 12 ways rather than 8 or 10. I would really love for San Diego State and UNLV to join the WAC, but, if you take away our emotions, it just doesn’t make any sense.
USC is 6-0 against Hawaii, but the Warriors say they are not intimidated by the success and aura of USC.
“To me, it’s just a name,” Hawaii linebacker Corey Parades said. “We’re all human. We all work hard. We work just as hard as them in the offseason. … On the field, it’s just man against man, whoever is better.”
I see nothing wrong with the on-going banter and discussions about what will happen to UH.
This IS about supporting UH student athletes.
No secure future for UH athletics = no student athletes.
#150, as usual, Garret beat me to it.
I thought right. Thank you Mr. McGarret. 😉
#152 Kazz, yea, yea, yea. If no UH athletics I no need pay the student fees. yea, yea , yea. Wait a minute……… I no attend UH. I neva even go dea. I wen Leeward one long, long, time ago. Keep the athletics!
fingers crossed . . . UH 31 USC 24
Now now…This ain’t the Garlic Valley.
On a plane from LA to HNL. Way too many SC fans here! Go Warriors!
Weather forecast for tomorrow:
Mostly sunny with a chance of SMUG.
In 2007, Stanford was a 41 point underdog at USC. Final Score: Stanford 24, USC 23 on a great pass in the end zone at the final buzzer. It was one of the greatest upsets in college football history. Last year, Washington, a 19 1/2 point underdog against USC beat the Trojans 16-13 in Seattle. The last five games of last year, USC was 2-3 against PAC 10 teams, losing bad to Oregon, at home against Stanford, and at home against Arizona. They barely beat Arizona St. 14-9 and beat their arch rival UCLA. Although they were 9-4 last season I think the trend is down for USC. Their talent level is not as good as prior teams. Make no mistake, they still have lots of 4 and 5 star players, but they are not as scary as before. To me, we get chance!!!! But, things have to fall our way and we have to get the breaks. USC has got to turn the ball over a couple to times and we have to capatalize on it and score. Our offense has to keep the ball enough so that our defense doesn’t get worn out. A big special team play may spell the difference. Or, it might come down to a field goal. UH has to play relaxed and with confidence that they can make some big plays and be smart. I also believe that the coaches might be a big factor in determining the outcome as far as their calls and their adjustments. In the past, we have seen us get out coached. Maybe some changes in the booth and on the field might help. The weather will be very hot and the conditioning so important along with the depth. It doesn’t have to be close, but a win will do. USC is playing against the NCAA and the country and they are mad, but they aren’t going to a bowl game and is on probation. UH feels it has a big opportunity and wants to show the nation that Hawaii football is back and that the MWC made a mistake.
This series has been one sided, but people didn’t think Barack Obama could be President either, and he won. I have a feeling tomorrow….Hawaii Warriors – 38, USC – 17. After this, Ryan Parker will pen a new song version of Hawaii’s Warriors.
Hawaii, you gotta believe!!!!
Yep, not to mention the Trojans game against Washington State last year. Score was 27-6 and USC was a huge favorite. 28 points was the spread, if not mistaken.
Are the WAC schools hurrying their football commit with BYU just to fill the Boise St departure in 2011?
Does this indicate that the WAC will NOT find replacements for Boise St, Fresno and Nevada and therefore fill in BYU for 2012?
Seems that BYU stands to gain a lot with very little effort to make their “indy” status workable while the WAC gets nothing other than a game to fill in their schedules?
I cannot shake the feeling that BYU “used” the WAC to gain departure from the MWC, not keep its commitment to place the non-football sports with the WAC, and fill its football schedule with the scrambling WAC schools.
As a McKinley HS teacher tells his students during their first class with him by pounding his desk and says, “human nature sucks”.
Great to see those upset victories!!! Makes me hopeful. So what are we afraid of, right???
Kazz, great weather report.
But what will be the temperature…
down on the field…
on the plastic grass?
Put lots of salt on your meals tomorrow, boys…
And eat some bananas…
You’re gonna need potasium and sodium…
If you are afraid to face an opponent then you shouldn’t play sports.
Maybe play barefoot.
Oh heck, just play naked?
Kazz,
I spend good money on my tools. I am not wasting a good screwdriver on my buddy Karl.
Part of me hopes he is on the field during the recognition of the Softball team in some capacity. If there is a clear distinction between HATE (yes, i know strong word) and LOVE from the fans it would be during that time.
Okay, maybe not…
Hawaii should take the Makai sideline so they can stay in the shade a lot more. Put the Trojans on the Mauka side so they can wilt. Of course, I’m sure Coach Mac has already thought of it before this. If not, I would be very shocked. Any advantage we can get should be utilized.
Remember what Rolovich and company did to BYU’s undefeated season.
We can do it.
Dere
Since this is a non-conference game, we’re not required to follow WAC rules of the team being on the same sidelines as the students.
Most likely, the team will be on the makai sidelines, as I wilt on the mauka side
Just reading some Utah newspaper articles and there’s a great dislike,(hate is the exact word used), among current MWC members for BYU, and this was prior to BYU’s announcement with going independant. So, it makes one wonder about BYU’s tactics and business dealings with other schools. Maybe a oneway street…and as I see it so far, it just might be the case.
So buyer beware, as they say.
Tomorrow is the first game of the season.
It’s a big game, but it’s just one game.
As in all the games, we will bring it!
We will warm up with intensity.
We will rise to the occasion.
We will be heard from.
We will rock da hale.
We are the fans.
Warrior Fans!
We BELIEVE!
Go Warriors!
Beat USC!
USC- 63
UH – 3
Project Trojan Leadership: Seniors wide receiver Ronald Johnson and corner back Shareece Wright have helped to usher in the the next generation of Trojans by mentoring their freshmen protegees wr Robert Woods and corner back Nickell Robey. From Johnson and Wright to Matt Barkley and Malcom Smith, USC football has STRONG locker room voices to lead the 2010 campaign.
Coach Lane Kiffin pregame routine for the players is “lighter” then Pete Carroll’s. The “TEAM” has a business trip approach to this first game despite the beautiful tropical surroundings !
The team arrived late last night and went immediately to their rooms after seeing the hammer head shark in the lagoon. The Trojans woke up this morning to a perfect Oahu day, as the players had breakfast followed by a morning of team meetings.
USC did a short walk-thru at a local high school, then back to the hotel to rest and hydrate. NO schedule team activities planned like previous trips to the islands. At night, they have more meetings and a optional chapel or mass. The Trojans are of singular mind, return home 1-0, “NO DISTRACTIONS” !
Way to go Derek.
Sis, Boom, Bah!
Derek:
September 1st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
In 2007, Stanford was a 41 point underdog at USC. Final Score: Stanford 24, USC 23 on a great pass in the end zone at the final buzzer. It was one of the greatest upsets in college football history. Last year, Washington, a 19 1/2 point underdog against USC beat the Trojans 16-13 in Seattle.
Steve, ur #124….where Benson is staying while in Hawaii?….word on the street puts him at some military compound…for protection.
ST will be on ESPN1420AM, in a few minutes.
Just wondering????, can UH take advantage of Obama’s, “Stimulus-package?”
USC Scouting Report: Hawaii
2009 record: 6-7 (3-5 in the WEAK Wac)
Series History: 6-0 ( last meeting a thrashing 63-17 win over UH 2005 )
Head Coach: Greg McMackin (3rd year, 13-14 over all record )
Players to Watch:
Remember the USC jinx. It may be our 13th man tomorrow. Each year USC has a “disappointing” loss — losing to a team it thought it should have beat. RainbowCliff can probably describe some of the mood after these annual losses: Stanford in 2007, Oregon State in 2008, University of Washington in 2009. So, after looking at USC’s 2010 schedule, who do they least want to lose to, and who are they most confident about beating? 👿
#175 Mr. RainbowCliff, are you quoting someone or are those your own words?
ST on SportsAnimals next.
http://www.espn1420am.com/id=66
Does anyone know whether the team is staying in a Waikiki hotel tonight or due to cost control, are not together tonight?
oops.
http://www.espn1420am.com
#182
http://www.usctrojans.com/blog/
Igloo, ur #105….for all you know, maybe the MWC is just waiting for UH to go independant before they suggest for all the remaining WAC/MWC schools to combine themselves into one large size conference like before????…now that UH is out of the picture.
just a thought.
Thank you Mr. bb. I was wondering what is a protogees.
UH vs USC
0 – 66 roysan16
2 – 0 OldDiver
3 – 63 Anonymous
21 – 17 HNL
21 – 14 gigi
24 – 20 jm2375
24 – 28 NCAA
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 LizKauai
25 – 24 A-House
27 – 24 Steve
28 – 27 djmitcho
28 – 21 J-FORCE
30 – 28 wafan
30 – 47 Dennis Holloran
30 – 58 Pride
31 – 10 tom mui
31 – 28 bstunna2002
31 – 30 808ike
31 – 24 Kev-1
33 – 30 MP
34 – 27 papajoe2
34 – 31 lil.s
35 – 21 Pomai
35 – 31 DPK
35 – 24 Jack Flash
38 – 21 G (China)
38 – 24 chopsueybooy
38 – 17 Derek
41 – 31 Michigan Warrior
41 – 31 LK
41 – 38 Tyaiea
41 – 24 Hank
42 – 35 Tcahng
42 – 20 Unkanesson
45 – 34 greenthumb
45 – 28 al
47 – 42 NYUH
48 – 28 protector
56 – 14 d1shima
56 – 13 Kekoa
62 – 24 Ipu Man
Re #31 – update- they are at Ihilani afterall. Pix show boys having a good time at the beach 😆
and they were practicing at Kapolei….
Re #189,
Hawaii – 20
USC – 47
Anyone know what hotel UH is staying at?
http://store.cstv.com/store_contents.cfm?cart_id=100636283858367841141116932720100109&store_id=22&dept_id=17924&product_id=174063
Same damn button they were selling at the Coliseum 5 years ago.
LAME
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5519832&campaign=rss&source=ESPNUHeadlines
The Big Ten announced its divisional breakdown Wednesday night and Ohio State and Michigan will be in different six-team divisions when the league expands to 12 members in 2011.
Neither division has been named but they break down like this: Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Minnesota and Northwestern in one. Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue and Indiana in the other.
Great place to kill some time during work
I believe that we need to fill the holes with anyone wishing to take us as bodybag games. Which means away, but money, maybe national exposure, but, it’ll probably help us in recruitment. We will tell the recruits that we will play Auburn, or Oklahoma, or Michigan, whoever and will be on television.
Now it will be on the coaching staff to at least be decent. Yes, we may be dead at the end, but if we don’t look like road kill, it may get us some positive attention.
That, in my opinion is a better sell to a recruit than saying, “oh and we’re playing Northeastern West Montana State and will wrap up with Seouthwestern East Oklahoma Union.”
They at least don’t think body bag.
#180 Continue: Players to Watch: WR Greg Salas ( Senior, Chino Ca.) QB Bryant Moniz ( Jr. Wahiawa, Hawaii)
Salas caught a ridiculous 106 balls last season for 1,590 yards and 8 TDs. He plays the slot position, so expect freshmen Nickell Robey to be thrown right into the fire against the Warriors “STAR” !
Moniz is a Fresno City College transfer, who passed for 2,396 yards and 14 TD’s in 09 in eight starts. As a product of their system, hecompleted 57.1% of his passes.
Strength / Spread Offense: “it’s always something in our favor, you don’t see it very much say’s Hawaii Head Coach Greg McMackin as they’ve had time to to work on us and study us and I know they’ll have a good plan for us and be a real challenge”.
Weakness: Line of Scrimmage / The Trojans will be able to over power the Warriors on both side of the ball. Hawaii’s offensive line is in transition particularly at the guard and center spots, so they’re unlikely to find a lot of juice in their power run game in which they don’t really emphasize that part of the game plan.
Defensively, Kiffin noted that the Warriors tend to gamble and move around a lot as his belief is that his Trojans keep it simple they will “WEAR” down Hawaii in the early evening heat as Marc Tyler and Allen Bradford “POUNDS” the rock !
Hawaii defensively don’t have the talent to match the Trojans, so they’ll need to force turn overs by confusing Matt Barkley or taking advantage of USC’s tackle-fre fall camp.
The all time combined score between these two teams is 297-67 in favor of the Trojans, so this would be a “historical moumental” upset IF Hawaii can win !
Heard the presser by CB. BYWhoooo did a con job on the WAC and Benson
fell for it. He needs to find another job; like moving boxes at the USC dorms
which is more suited for his intelligence.
RainbowCliff,
ST has the book. He will deliver it to you at the Fresno St. game.
Okay.. here’s the scoop..
UH will beat USC by a score of 47-35….
Whye?
Because tomorrow,
tomorrow
is special!
Special
because it’s
my wife’s, Estelle’s, birthday… 😉
#181 Green Thumb / USC dissapointing losses: Yes, I can say that SC BIG losses has held it’s memory among USC alumni, boosters and loyal fans BUt the exciting play from it’s many STAR athletes out weigh the upsets with Pac 10, National and Rose bowl champioships !
Pac 10 is highly competitve as EVERY team get’s up for the men of Troy as they bring the game and ALL interest from opposing teams, media and fans alike.
This game is just plain “business” to them as they come for ONE thing to DOMINATE it’s opponent as ONE major factor you will see that will over wealm the Warriors “world class team speed” stated by USC 710 espn radio announcer Pete Arbogost.
Royal Hawaiian Hotel: USC rally for 2,100 people tonight, mainly booze, very little pupus. (as reported by my uncle’s cousin’s girlfriend) 😛
mih,
Happy early birthday wishes to Estelle! We win ’em for her.
#182 NCAA: No #175 quotes are not mine as ALL belong to USC coaches, writers and bloggers.
Happy Birthday, Estelle. I love your photo art!!!
808 Ike !
Mahalo for the heads up to Johnny Wooden autograph book
and your kindness for me to have it !
5K USC fans are unaccounted for, 7500 tickets were purchased by USC. Hopefully another hotel is hosting a bigger party of USC faithful. I hope the HTA sees this as a benefit from UH being a D1 athletic program.
twas the night before kickoff…
So who is a better QB?
http://espn.go.com/ncf/preview?gameId=302450062
USC 45 minute walk thru at local Kopolei High School was brokrn into even thirds starting with special teams then offense and defense. USC fans are EXCITED to watch USC special teams this season as players has put in a lot of time as they really like to HIT and TACKLE !
With the work they have put into it EXPECTATIONS are high for them to be a DOMINATE unit as Hawaii punt returner Greg Salas will soon learn !
UH vs USC
0 – 66 roysan16
2 – 0 OldDiver
3 – 63 Anonymous
20 – 47 WenatcheeWarrior
21 – 17 HNL
21 – 14 gigi
24 – 20 jm2375
24 – 28 NCAA
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 LizKauai
25 – 24 A-House
27 – 24 Steve
28 – 27 djmitcho
28 – 21 J-FORCE
30 – 28 wafan
30 – 47 Dennis Holloran
30 – 58 Pride
31 – 10 tom mui
31 – 28 bstunna2002
31 – 30 808ike
31 – 24 Kev-1
33 – 30 MP
34 – 27 papajoe2
34 – 31 lil.s
35 – 21 Pomai
35 – 31 DPK
35 – 24 Jack Flash
38 – 21 G (China)
38 – 24 chopsueybooy
38 – 17 Derek
41 – 31 Michigan Warrior
41 – 31 LK
41 – 38 Tyaiea
41 – 24 Hank
42 – 35 Tcahng
42 – 20 Unkanesson
45 – 34 greenthumb
45 – 28 al
47 – 42 NYUH
47 – 35 madeinhawaii
48 – 28 protector
56 – 14 d1shima
56 – 13 Kekoa
62 – 24 Ipu Man
Kazz,
Great news about the Wahine being honored at half-time! Makes up for the 5 mins. they received last year at the VB game.
Donations being accepted at the T-Gate to support Na Wahine. They deserve it!
GO WARRIORS!!!
BEAT USC!!!
Anonymous is Roysan16 alter ego but they have different scores, bad omen for them.
Who turned on the bats**t signal?
For Pomai: UH 32 – USC 31
I cannot bring myself to put down the USC?UH score.
Twas the night before game day when all through the house
Rolovich was reviewing a offense created by Mouse
Helmets and jerseys hung in the lockers with care
At Aloha Stadium, the Warriors will be there
The Tsai-kos were gathering their food to share
In hopes that all the ohana will be there
sorry…back to work
Game is just around the corner and still get yak yak about WAC, MWC, etc. Go Warriors!!!
UH – USC PREDICTION:
UH – 25 18 27 25
USC – 17 25 25 23
WAHINE WIN IN 4 SETS.
At the next UH home game after USC against Charleston Southern they should recognize the US Little League Championship Waipio team (Don’t know if the USC half time program have enough time to fit Waipio after the Wahines).
USC – UH poetry time.
In the advent of colle….
I HATE USC.
Colt Brennan on the Petros and Money Show this afternoon …
http://www.petrosandmoney.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=PetrosandMoney.xml
#221: Sorry you hate USC as it is a fine school with RICH alumni
all over the world and have GREAT teams every year in all sports
vying for Pac 10 or National Championships !
I have the GREATEST respect for them and plenty of friends and associates
who dawn the cardinal and gold as they truly know what “SUCCESS” is all about
in the professional and athletic world !
Just got a text message.
Chawan is in mid-season form with his signs ready for tomorrow!!! 😎
Don’t feel sorry.
I am NOT.
#225; I kinda figure that as LOYAL Hawaiian fan you are !
Besides, USC should have enough “green bottle braddahs” with fists full of gambling cash ready to cheer them on.
Same guys with the “Defend Hawaii” sticker on their trucks are the same ones selling out the 808 to the orange and red.
PATHETIC!
#223…with all due respect Rainbow Cliff…I think some of us just may know already how fast and strong and overwhelming and great and powerful USC will be in the eyes of some…
Really love all the posts you offer! I am so looking forward to seeing more like them..
#117…KEV-1….we have the strongest fb and non-fb program among the WAC members that are left…so I am with you…;)
#227: Can’t speak on the “sell out” hawaian guys you have mention and “green bottle braddahs” full of gambling cash. Many USC folks I have met and they do have their own agenda and way of life by being in the “Trojan Family” !
They do everything first class and spends TONS of money providing the BEST for their students and athletes as Galen Center is a beautiful arena built by private money !
#228 Hank: with all due respect you REALLY don’t know until you really see it LIVE in person !
Reading about it is one thing, actually seeing it is a whole new perspective !
#232…rainbow cliff…i’m a 1980 USC alum, but I’m from Hilo and have a UH graduate degree…brother.
Seeing anything live does bring a perspective to one’s eyes.
Getting to watch our Warriors and Rainbow Wahine live and in person for every game on the field or on the court is something that is unique and brings pride to those willing to understand how truly different Hawaii is as a whole.
Sometimes they say “different doesn’t always mean better”.
In this case, it does.
My teams, MY school, MY HOME, and MY PRIDE.
I love when you talk about this type of stuff in your blog. Perhaps could you continue this?
If this whole thing was actually about improving conferences on pure athletic competition, perhaps UH would have a BETTER shot at the BIG WEST for their 18 other non-football sports.
#233 Hank “BIG” Hilo Brother I live here in TROJAN land and have LIFE TIME USC relationships as my deceased mother is a graduate from the University of Southern California and I have PLENTY of them that support my cause to the Al Wooten Center and annual golf classic !
I do not hate USC. I just want the Warriors to win.
Go Warriors.
Rainbow Cliff,
I respect you as a UH Letterwinner and Alumni and look forward to hearing from you as such…
GO WARRIORS!
RainbowCliff, Are you here for the game? Will you be at the Tsaiko tailgate? I would like to meet you and shake your hand. I won’t be attending the game though.
happy happy bday Estelle……enjoy your special day!
ST will be on Leahy and Leahey tonight…soon.
thanks SteveM!
TSAI-KOS got a mention on Leahey and Leahey. ST to be the guest on the show.
…let’s see the power of *make-up*! 😉
I’d like the Warriors to dominate the Conference for the next 2 years, garner all the BCS points, and have the Basketball team get to post-season play for the next few years and then have the MWC grudgingly having to invite UH in where they will be re-united with some old rivals. And BYU will have only the dregs of the WAC for those guaranteed games; I’d call it getting their “just desserts” rather than the current situation where they’re having their cake and eating it too.
ST looking good…. pretty polished
ST – you look MARVELOUS!
#231 – They do everything first class and spends TONS of money providing the BEST for their students and athletes …
Amen to that…just ask Reggie Bush!
Au-ryte Tsai!
ST would not make a prediction on tomorrows game, only said it will tough.
#213 Ralph
Anonymous is Roysan16 alter ego but they have different scores, bad omen for them.
Ralph,
Well we know this much, the guy can’t stay away. He needs the blog. He needs it. He also owes Na Koa $1000 for posting again if his “word” means anything; alter ego or not. Pretty sad.
Sorry to waste ink on it.
Go Warriors!
lots of news
part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNxe6eumEyM
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNxe6eumEyM
See you at the game tomorrow!!!
and Lord knows how many others as well…
Just got a phone call. My parents are making it out for the game tomorrow.
FYI, UH is .500 all time in games my parents have attended.
Just tossing that out there…
RainbowCliff,
Really like the updates on the USC football team. Might be just me, but I would appreciate it if you would not mention our players by name when you talk about them learning a lesson about the game of football from USC.
Thanks for the great Post – very COOL!!!
OldDiver — seeing your name reminded me we haven’t heard of a deal between Time Warner and ESPN/Disney. My name has a link to the freshest news story I could find … decision “expected” today but no announcement.
Kazz,
When I took a quick glance at your #219 post I thought you were taking UH, USC game prediction to a new level by predicting the score by quarters. Then I added up the score and you had UH winning 95 to 90. LOL.
I thought I heard on the news tonight that the game would end before the broadcast would be affected.
check out UH athletics new web: UH athletics OHANA
http://www.hawaiiathleticsohana.com/
thanks for the link, Ralph – good stuff.
GO WARRIORS!
Hiya!
Hi bod! glad to see you!
I have a request. Is anyone passing near HNL at 1:19pm tomorrow? I am arriving at 1:19 PM at HAL. If not, I can grab TheBus to the TG.
Mahalo!
Talk about dedication to your sport, the Wahine Volleyball team will be holding practice from 4:00 – 6:00 tomorrow afternoon.
Oops, not in New Delhi any more!
I am a USC fan in town and heard that this is “the” blog when it comes to Hawaii sports.
Best of luck tomorrow. The weather is great and we are already spending a lot of money. We hope we come back soon. Wish Hawaii could make it to the Pac-10. My wife and I would love to make this trip every other year. This trip is our 3rd honeymoon.
To the poster Rainbow Cliff…thats from my friends blog Jordan Moore.–hes supposed to be down here with us. Just one thing. Learn to use cut and paste. I recognize the entry but you kill some of the grammar and words. I was about to tell my bud, what the heck you drinking!
The Hawaii people we met have been very nice. Hope we come back soon.
Aloha!
pride.
tell us the way it was back in 1979 when heavily favored #1 usc with ronnie lott, charles white, ricky bell, anthony munoz, et al faced an amped up universityh of hawaii at the aloha stadium.
tell us how the team came so close to upsetting the trojans entering the fourth quarter down only 7-5.
tell us what great effort you and your teammates displayed before the likes of the home crowd (myself included).
tell us man.
aloha fight on!
be prepared to witness the passion the home crowd has tomorrow.
hopefully you will see an epic battle on the field.
and, of course, thanks for spending some big bucks in our paradise island state.
Fight On, spend more money, thank you!
Fight On
the person you hear crying in the background isn’t a Warrior fan, its your Governor, he read you Californians are spending a lot of money in Hawaii while his budget sinks deeper in red.
Fight ON!
SPEND ON!
Fight On! Welcome to the blog!
We come in all shapes and sizes and personalities but we are all football lovers and appreciate great play and great sportsmanship!
Have a great time in Hawaii and don’T forget to visit Kauai! 😎
Ralph,
Thanks for posting the new UH ‘Ohana site. It’s great PR for athletics.
GO WARRIORS!!!
so who’s punking out tomw?
Gotta win two out of the three phases of the game.
Offense
Defense
Special Teams
Which one of those are we going to win?
Of cousre, that means that we have to win the special teams battle. I’m not sure if fans truly realize how important the special teams are. Fumbled kickoff, blocked punt, botched snap on the P.A.T. All gamebreakers. We need to be the ones making the opponent do all of those things.
Gotta play great sudden change football!
Gotta win the red zone battle. Score in the red zone on offense and keep the other team from scoring on defense.
Did I say anything about turnovers? Do I need to say anything about turnovers?
Oh by the way, gotta win the turnover battle.
Don’t turn the ball over.
Don’t put the ball on the carpet.
Hiya Liz!
btw…nice read.
http://palen.com/joe/football/usc_notre_dame_1978.html
“Among the true freshmen on the 1978 squad were future stars Marcus Allen, Chip Banks and Riki Gray. The sophomore class included the likes of Ronnie Lott, Hoby Brenner, Keith Van Horne, Dennis Smith and Jeff Fisher. Even guys like Charles White, Brad Budde, Anthony Munoz and Paul McDonald were only juniors.
All told, 37 players off of the 1978 roster played in the NFL, 19 of whom were freshmen and sophomores. Which is not to say that the senior class just stood on the sidelines, holding water bottles. Among the seniors who played major roles that season were fullback Lynn Cain (USC’s second-leading rusher that year), flanker Calvin Sweeney (USC’s leading receiver), offensive guard Pat Howell, nose guard Rich Dimler (USC’s second-leading tackler) and placekicker Frank Jordan. “
oops…here’s the nice read.
http://boxscorenews.com/hawaii-warriors-focus-on-usc-p1295-68.htm
Thanks to BG for the ‘shout-out’ yesterday.
Day of Reckoning is at hand! Oh Lord, please favor UH with a spectacular WIN over USC! Your faithful (ok, not always) servant mo808 🙂
pride. but, please tell us what went on pregame locker room, during the game, at half time, it must have been one of the games where you replay each moment in your mind’s eye.
Thanks Al! “The game, to be played in Honolulu on Sept. 2nd, will be shown live on ESPN starting at 11pm EST.” Things are already looking up, since I’ve got to work tomorrow–I can still catch it on the tube! Go Warriors!
mo808….where you at?
is Jeff Fisher the current Titan coach? if he is, I can see why he is ticked at Kiffen for recruiting Pola as the Titans prepared to enter the Pre-season. Hopefully Fisher is sending a big “bachi” Kiffen’s and Pola’s way.
Yes that’s the same Jeff Fisher. And yes, it is a family situation. Little bit pilikia in da ‘ohana.
mo808 ESPN will broadcast the game live at 5 pm then rebroadcast at 9 pm, HST, so you’ve got two chances to catch the game on ESPN, you got to drink a couple of red bulls or 5 hr energy to stay awake.
Fight-On – Welcome!
I commend you for coming into the Warrior Beat and showing the blog and its readers respect. You, sir, are a Class-Act!
Hope you enjoy the reminder of you visit, sans tomorrow between the hours of 5:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Congratulations on your honeymoon!
You’re ALWAYS welcomed back.
Alooooooooooha!!
Hey mo808!
you= your
yeaaahhh! 18 hours to kickoff!!! i cant wait!
Warriors, da time is near. You must respond.
UH 38
USC 35
Best wishes to Colt tomorrow. Hope he gets some decent playing time and throws 2 TDs against Seattle. His game starts 1 hr before UH-USC. Interesting that after all the cuts, the Raiders still have 4 QBs. I would think it will drop to 3 sometime shortly after this last pre-season game. Time for Colt to deliver.
Anybody know what the latest attendance figures are for the UH-USC game? It looks like it’s going to fall well off a sell out.
In 2005 USC brought in 4000 fans and they spent 6 million! …. This year it’s 7000… interpolated that may be 10.5 million in spending by these generous visitors!
Big name teams bring $$$ not only to the turnstiles but to Hawaii’s overall economy..
Football can be a boon to Hawaii’s tourism industry.
Hawaii can’t afford to lose it’s D1 football team.
GO WARRIORS!
The travel industry should help pad the payment to visiting teams with very rich football traditions. That way, UH may be able to book more teams like USC and really build a strong positive image for itself.
Happy Birthday Estelle! 🙂
whooooooooooooooosh
299- GO COLT!
Nitey nite and sweet Warrior dreams !
#261 Ralph looks like someone used our idea with the videos.
UH vs USC polls are closed:
0 – 66 roysan16
2 – 0 OldDiver
3 – 63 Anonymous
20 – 47 WenatcheeWarrior
21 – 17 HNL
21 – 14 gigi
24 – 20 jm2375
24 – 28 NCAA
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 LizKauai
25 – 24 A-House
27 – 24 Steve
28 – 27 djmitcho
28 – 21 J-FORCE
30 – 28 wafan
30 – 47 Dennis Holloran
30 – 58 Pride
31 – 10 tom mui
31 – 28 bstunna2002
31 – 30 808ike
31 – 24 Kev-1
32 – 31 buger
33 – 30 MP
34 – 27 papajoe2
34 – 31 lil.s
35 – 21 Pomai
35 – 31 DPK
35 – 24 Jack Flash
38 – 21 G (China)
38 – 24 chopsueybooy
38 – 17 Derek
38 – 35 Curt
41 – 31 Michigan Warrior
41 – 31 LK
41 – 38 Tyaiea
41 – 24 Hank
42 – 35 Tcahng
42 – 20 Unkanesson
45 – 34 greenthumb
45 – 28 al
47 – 42 NYUH
47 – 35 madeinhawaii
48 – 28 protector
56 – 14 d1shima
56 – 13 Kekoa
62 – 24 Ipu Man
Hawaii 41
USC 37
I got my Green on… Go, Warriors!!!
I mean, I always got something of UH’s on every day like a hat, at least. But today is full-on GREEN!!!
Something strange tonight, as some of the bloggers know the wind blows pretty good at my place and with it the sounds from H1 from behind Red Hill or the traffic from the airport, but to night nothing, no wind, no sounds just dead silence, the clouds just hanging in the air, when I went out on the front porch it was really weird, then after a few moments there was just the beginning of a breeze but it was different it wasn’t coming from the west like it normally does it was coming from the east, from Manoa way. Hmmmm just wondering if this is a sign of what is coming later in the day?
UH vs USC (just for you Pride) Now it is really closed.
0 – 66 roysan16
2 – 0 OldDiver
3 – 63 Anonymous
20 – 47 WenatcheeWarrior
21 – 17 HNL
21 – 14 gigi
24 – 20 jm2375
24 – 28 NCAA
24 – 17 RedZone
24 – 21 LizKauai
25 – 24 A-House
27 – 24 Steve
28 – 27 djmitcho
28 – 21 J-FORCE
30 – 28 wafan
30 – 47 Dennis Holloran
31 – 10 tom mui
31 – 28 bstunna2002
31 – 30 808ike
31 – 24 Kev-1
32 – 31 buger
33 – 30 MP
34 – 27 papajoe2
34 – 31 lil.s
35 – 21 Pomai
35 – 31 DPK
35 – 24 Jack Flash
38 – 21 G (China)
38 – 24 chopsueybooy
38 – 17 Derek
38 – 35 Curt
41 – 37 Pride
41 – 31 Michigan Warrior
41 – 31 LK
41 – 38 Tyaiea
41 – 24 Hank
42 – 35 Tcahng
42 – 20 Unkanesson
45 – 34 greenthumb
45 – 28 al
47 – 42 NYUH
47 – 35 madeinhawaii
48 – 28 protector
56 – 14 d1shima
56 – 13 Kekoa
62 – 24 Ipu Man
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#256 Old Diver: I did not know mentioning Hawaii player names in a vulnerable tone is a crime & IF it really bothers you then you are in for a LONG season !
This is a blog that every one has the right to comment pro or con for Hawaii athletics. ONE thing I won’t do is use profanity as SO many bloggers use here to express their dislike or anger at topic or subject.
I understand your compassion and loyalty for the Warriors, heck I lived the experience in my playing days but that was 29 years ago as I am an objective and professional young man who lives in Los Angeles and has witness the beatings that USC has given the Warriors !
Until the Warriors can compete and keep it close then I would GLADLY change my words BUT I don’t see it Thursday or any time soon as the Trojans are for real and maybe Hawaii
might get a football progam like them one day !
#88… Pomai… Right On!!!
#266 Fight On: University Of Spoil Child I don’t need for you to lecture me on “cutting and pasting” your bud Jordan Moore quotes as frankly you two are nothing but “water boys” on mommy and daddy USC money having the time of your life in the Aloha State !
Enjoy your time and “RESPECT” your elders as I will take a football and punish you and your bud with it as this former Hawaii athlete will “BRING IT” despite you being a FAN or student at USC.
What I drink you can’t afford it unless you go into your parent’s account and that is not happening as they are smart enough to know to keep the MONEY locked up as a USC education is needed for a cynical brat like you !
Now come to Los Angeles, cut & paste that !
Hey guys, Brashton Satele was on “Hard Knocks” last night. He was walking around Times Square with a female friend. They walked by a pizza place, and he says, “That’s my pizza place”. (Last week Coach Westhoff said he should open up a pizza shop in the Bronx and leave him alone.)
#148… Kazz… thanks for the heads up! Hopefully, Na Wahine (and their acomplishments) will be announced on tv during that segment of halftime, for that added bonus air time.
morning gang!
hey Ronnie – it’s thursday!
IMUA, WARRIORS !!
Great Morning All!
Loa,
Indeed….
IT’S THURSDAY!!!
GO WARRIORS!!!
TRAMPLE DA TROJANS!
ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs,
Go Warriors!
Warrior Band beat out the USC Band! Play the Alma Mater!!!!
Breaking News
UH no longer weighing options ,now pondering.
8) GOOD MORNING TSAIKO’S, TASIKETTE’S, WARRIOR FANS AND ALL OF THE 808, SUN BREAKING OUT AND GAME DAY BABE, 😈 TIME TO GET IT ON. G0 KANE OF MANOA
eh some one wake up the 😳 blog master and time for a new post.
shouting out to the early risers d1, annoddah dave, loa see you dea. 😀 also uku will represent socal at the tgate today, just talked to him yesterday.