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Several places have Hawaii as one of the last four in for the NCAA tournament. The Rainbow Wahine got some help from UCLA losing 3-2 to USC on Friday. The Bruins, at 13-14, are ineligible for a bid when being under .500.
Other Top 25
8) Wisconsin def. Rutgers 25-15, 25-18, 25-12
9) Creighton def. Villanova 25-17, 25-17, 25-19
16) Marquette def. St. Johns 26-24, 25-19, 25-15
26) Colorado lost to 31) Utah 23-25, 25-22, 29-31, 16-25
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You’re kidding. Not out yet? That is wonderful.
Did the swedish recruit sign up? Sorry looking forward to next season already.
Yes, I think slim, very slim, but get chance. It helps that San Diego lost to Pepperdine. I don’t think the NCAA will take four from the WCC. To me, the fly in the ointment is Princeton at RPI 49. Will the NCAA take two from the Ivy League? The other is Duke. They squeaked out a 5-set win over RPI 78 Miami (FL) on Wednesday. An unimpressive win. The NCAA may pass them since they also would be the 5th team from the ACC. If the Wahine get in at RPI 50, then Dave Shoji will be right in predicting an at-large for the Wahine.
In!!!!!!!
2. not yet
>> A historical note from the NCAA
Since 2010, teams eligible for at-large bids that were ranked 50th missed in all five years. Teams ranked 46th made the tournament all seven times. Teams ranked 48th were in five of six times, and those ranked 49th made it four of seven times. At-large teams ranked 47th, however, were in the tournament one of seven years.
On the previous post, the answer is yes because I know the breadth of his comments.
Hawaii is a name that the volleyball community is familiar with.
They will get the benefit of the doubt.
I would bet my car on it.
When it comes to the NCAA and any Hawaii team, chances are more likely none rather than slim.
Cindy, very interesting historical data.
As I’ve mentioned several times, what happens to the major conferences of the West/West Coast (i.e. Pac-12 and WCC) will have a great impact on Hawaii as a “bubble” team. Last year, the Pac-12 had 9 teams (including the AQ) or 75% of the its entire league at the Big Dance. The 10-member WCC had only two — BYU and San Diego tied for 1st in the WCC final conference standings. And that left the door slightly ajar to extending an invitation to Hawai’i.
Again, as I’ve mentioned previously, I expect the Pac-12 to drop a notch, which means I expect it to receive 7 at-large bids. But the wild card is the WCC. BYU (27-1) is in. Pepperdine (21-8 with a 37 rpi) will follow with an at-large berth. But then look at the WCC “bubble” teams: St. Mary’s (19-9 with a 42 rpi) and San Diego (16-12 with a 47 rpi). If the WCC is awarded two at-large bids this year, the Bows may have the At-Large Door slammed in their face — unless the NCAA D1 Volleyball Committee deems the Big West worthy of having two representatives at the annual SHOWTIME!
(Note 1: Above RPIs are for matches through November 18. As you all know, the”official” last RPI for all matches through November 24 is only available to the Committee … and that includes power rating for conferences.)
(Note 2: Should the UH be shut out of the tournament, NCAA conspiracy theorists will raise their ugly heads. But look at the facts. I have never seen a UH team shoot itself in its feet more than this year’s version of the Rainbow Wahine.)
I’d be shocked if Hawaii gets in. If Hawaii gets consistently hosed by the committee even when they’re in, I doubt they’re going to give them the benefit of the doubt when they’re on the bubble like this.
Skipping the hawaii trip may end up costing sealy his job, or at least put him on serious hot seat and maybe getting hawaii a spot in the tournament.
5 Thks for revealing horror of RPI-50, but IMO, wahine will not be at RPI 50 in coming final poll due to many shifts in other teams and wahine would be shifted to favorable RPI (probably, ahead of San Diego, UCLA, Princeton, Denver, Duke, Yale, Dayton, Rice, ETSU, Syracuse, Louisville, Colorado State & Colorado), and march into post-season to continue the wahine tradition.
11. I doubt Sealy on the hot seat. Injuries led to the slide.
12. agree UH will not be at 50
Doesn’t matter where UCLA ends up. They are ineligible at 13-14
Rice (30 RPI) and Colorado State (39) have their conference’s AQs.
Had a little time
16 teams with higher RPIs have automatic berths RPI As of last Monday
1. Stanford (Pac-12)
2. Minnesota (Big Ten)
3. Texas (Big 12)
5. BYU
7. Pitt (ACC)
9. Kentucky (SEC)
10. Central Florida (AAC)
16. Creighton (Big East)
22. Northern Iowa (MVC)
24. Texas State (Sun Belt)
25. Cal Poly (Big West)
28. Dayton (A10)
30. Rice (CUSA)
39. Colorado State (MWC)
44. Yale (Ivy)
45. Stephen F. Austin (Southland)
10.
I am more than aware of Hawaii’s treatment when it comes to post-season selection time. I have gone into detail about the ’89-’90 men’s basketball team and the ’92-’93 women’s basketball team.
The short-shriftness even extends to the NBA draft: Trevor Ruffin, Anthony Carter, and Predrag Savovic all made NBA rosters and all were free agent signees. Carl English declared because the NBA Mock Draft had him going in the middle-to-late second round.
I’m just playing the law of averages.
Hawaii is due for a break.
The two berths yet to be decided, all with RPIs lower than UH
Big Sky
115 Northern Arizona vs. 141 Idaho
WAC
60. New Mexico State vs. 108 Utah Valley
IMHO based on the last RPI
The Big Ten gets 6 at-large
The Pac-12 gets 7 at large
The SEC gets 4 at-large
Cindy, the historical info you shared in your #5 is intriguing. Looks like being ranked 47th as an at-large team isn’t ideal. 😱
Question about the 48th spot: was an AQ in that position one of the years? Just wondering if that accounts for six rather than seven years being tallied.
Also seems like this year’s squad travels well, so I bet they’d do all right in one of the farther-away pods. This might be to our benefit, because there might be less info out there to use in preparing to play against Hawaii.
IF Kansas State (Big12) makes it, UH will. Don’t think that the 2x 3-0 losses do Robyn and staff any favors. Shoji was always ready pre Rio Games.
The WCC conf is UH’s/BWC’s biggest nemesis. BYU, Pepp, St. Mary’s and SD. LMU’s big win was purely a fluke (hurt individuals or not).
17. not sure about 48 or why it was only seven times. This was from an NCAA story.
18. not sure what you mean about Shoji being ready pre Rio Games.
agree about the WCC.
Saint Mary’s RPI was 42 on Monday, San Diego’s 47
Have a hard time thinking Denver gets in instead of Hawaii. A second team from the Summit instead of a second team from the Big West?
NAU sweeps Idaho for the Big Sky.
BYU is getting a top four seed.
Denver is in.
UH in another weak/Midmjr conf is forever swimming up stream (as it pertains to the P5 dominated NCAAT). When a team loses to Portland SB and even 2x to OR to a lesser extent (who has lost to a number of anybodies and somebodies too this 2018), UH should try again next season.
IMHO the top 4 are Stanford, Minnesota, Texas and BYU.
Top 25 from Saturday
Cal at 2) Stanford
3) Minnesota def. Rutgers 25-13, 25-14, 25-20
4) Illinois def. 12) Purdue 25-18, 23-25, 25-22, 25-15
5) Texas def. West Virginia 25-11, 25-22, 25-18
6) Nebraska def. Maryland 25-13, 25-10, 25-18
9) Creighton def. 16) Marquette 26-28, 25-22, 25-21, 25-21
11) Kentucky def. Auburn 25-12, 25-22, 25-19
17) Oregon at Oregon State
18) Michigan def. Michigan State 23-25, 27-25, 25-22, 25-23
20) Washington State def. 19) Washington 25-14, 16-25, 25-21, 18-25, 15-10
22) Tennessee def. Ole Miss 25-13, 25-13, 21-25, 25-23
28) Northern Iowa def. Illinois State 25-16, 25-22, 26-28, 25-22
Agreed.
I don’t personally believe that the Wahine will be invited, but on the off chance they do, I could see them flying into Seattle, then further into snowy Spokane. WSU is presumably hosting a sub.
Somewhere in the PNW AGAIN certainly, the way I see it.
: WSU vs NAU & UH vs St Mary’s (I suspect that the NCAA will ‘favor’ 2018 WSU) WSU’s husband/wife tandem have worked Extremely hard over the last five or six years. They’re due imo.
WAC championship
New Mexico State up 2-1 on Utah Valley, and up 15-11 in Set 4.
livestats at
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1) Stanford def. Cal, 25-23, 25-21, 25-19
17) Oregon def. Oregon State, 19-25, 25-18, 25-16, 25-14
New Mexico State takes the WAC title over Utah Valley, 19-25, 26-24, 25-20, 25-17
IF they advance, should they both meet on Dec 1 or 2nd after a semi of #2 Gavilan (NorCal) vs #3 Bakersfield (SoCal), then I’d continue watching for a setter.
The Bakersfield star is originally from Fresno.
UH has a supposed fine setter coming in 2020. Dunno.
11. Mike Sealy will never be in the hot seat, not after having won a national championship a few years ago. He’ll rise again.
If UH doesn’t make it, only consolation is that they don’t have to fly out and they’ll have more time to study for finals. Like I said before, chances that UH will make it next year will be better than 50-50 against Cal Poly that had a weak recruiting year this time. Robyn Ah Mow outdid Sam Crosson there.
19. So, pack those bags and get ready to fly!
Last year 4 of the 9-team Big 12 earned berths in the NCAA tournament: Texas /No. 6 seed, Baylor/No. 12 seed, Iowa St/No. 14 seed, and Kansas. Based on the penultimate RPI before Selection Sunday, the Big 12 could land anywhere from two (Texas, Baylor) to four (Kansas, Kansas St). But based on the Final Conference Standings, it would look odd if Kansas St (which finished 8th of 9 places) or Kansas (which finished 5th behind Iowa St and Oklahoma) to get the nod.
School RPI Conf. Standing
Texas 3 1
Baylor 14 2
Kansas 36 5
Kansas St 52 8
Tex. Tech 64 7
TCU 65 6
Iowa St 74 3 (tie)
Oklahoma 75 3 (tie)
Denver has three NCAA tournament appearances. The last time was 2016.
Hawaii has forty-three NCAA/AIAW tournament appearances. The last time was 2017.
You’re supposed to focus on the current season and not the history of a program.
But year after year, in the basketball tournament, perennials such as Syracuse and UCLA can rack up double-digit losses and still make the field.
In women’s volleyball, isn’t Hawaii(before Dave Shoji retired) a mid-major in name only, just like Gonzaga under Mark Few?
This is what I am hoping, if these are the two teams fighting for one spot.
The committee will look at Hawaii as a de facto “major”, whereas Denver will be viewed as a mid-major.
The team with the bigger reputation always wins.
In 2015, Kansas State and Michigan State got into the tournament with a RPI of 51 and 54, respectively.
But in the same year, Long Beach State was left out at 53.
30 Agree. Probable final poll plummet or post-season drop outs: ETSU (loss to SoCon:AQ Samford RPI 121), Denver (loss to Summit League AQ South Dakota RPI 109), Prestigious UCLA (with W/L ratio < 0.5), Weak Ivy League runner up: Princeton. Probably, at large-bid Cut-off would be RPI 48 due tournament loses of Denver & ETSU. Hawaii’s RPI sould climb ahead of Yale, Dayton, Rice, Colorado State due to their weak conference strength and also would not be surprised if Hawaii is placed ahead of San Deigo, Colorado, Duke, Syracuse & Louisville although they all make it. Wahine is a better team on road and will challenge any top team ranked 9-16 and WISH to land on a bracket of top 9-16 on the first week!
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