Chris Gaines dies
Sad to hear of the passing of Chris Gaines, who was the UH basketball team’s career scoring leader.
Gaines, 41, died in Orlando, where he was living with his wife, Diane, and their three children, according to his step-mother, Clara Gaines.
Gaines was a soft-spoken guy, tremendously nice, and a pure shooter.
UH’s Circle of Honor committee has been meeting. Gaines deserves to be honored, for his athletic performance and how well he represented UH.
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The Sheraton Hawaii Bowl marked the end of an era, of sorts, for the Warriors. Of the 26 starting positions — 11 on offense, 12 on defense (counting the nickelback), three specialists (kicker, punter, long-snapper) — 13 were brought in by June Jones’ coaching staff.
Next season, there will be only five holdovers — most notably linebacker Corey Paredes, safety Richard Torres and right wideout Royce Pollard. The number could grow to seven if slotback Miah Ostrowski and safety Kenny Estes win starting jobs.
That means, for the first time, the majority of recruits will be from the Greg McMackin tenure. McMackin has worked on balancing out the classes, and trying to bring in tall and quick receivers and defensive backs. From this point, his tenure should be judged.
Mele Kalikimaka!
Happy holidays! Had a great night w/ the family.
My post rom yesterday’s blog
Athletic department expenses at any public university are paid from ticket sales; advertising sales & in-kind equipment & uniform donations; special event booster club fundraisers such as concerts, fun runs, dinners, & silent auctions; alumni drives; personal solicitations; bequests; earned interest on endowment funds; dedicated fees paid at registration by students; unsolicited donations; tv conracts, logo royalty payments, concession & parking fees; and legislative allocations paid from taxes – not necessarily in that order.
Jim Donovan has a MASSIVE job to raise funds to support all sports. We must accept the fact that it is our job as fans and supporters to do whatever we can to financially support his efforts.
If every third person who buys a season ticket in any sport were to donate just $25 a year to each sport s/he supports in addition to the tickets – approximately 50,000 season tickets in six sports all totaled – that would generate about $4,500,000 a year. Then add in all other other revenues/donations and that would more than cover all of the Department of Athletics’ expenses plus reduce the deficit within five years.
Once the word gets out, other season ticket buyers would join in on the pledge drive PLUS new ticketholders would also start generating even more revenues.
We’re talking a major chunk of change here – even though the cost to most folks here individually would be one cheap lunch at McBurgerBox every couple of weeks.
For those of you who only support football, that’s about 50 cents a week. Can you afford it?
In my case, doing this would cost me about $3.75 a week for six ticketed sports along with an annual donation of $25 to the softball program. I can pick up that money in the form of inappropriately discarded HI-5 containers over a year’s time.
Why not generate a pilot pledge drive right here. Surely, all of us can afford to pay this manini amount.
BTW – Mucho Mahalo to Ala Wai for listing the top 101-highest paid coaches – #293 yesterday. It never occurred to me that McMackin was right in the middle.
Whoops!!! My post from yesterday’s blog
Good morning.
Yes, most of the team will be Mack’s recruits next year. No question Mack knows players and positions–it’ll be interesting how everything comes together next season, even with the departing seniors.
It’s raining again, Warriors lose….. again. Good season, not great, don’t sugar coat it because it is what it is. Sad for the players regarding the Tulsa game; one of the reasons I admired Coach Dick Tomey was that he always praised his players for a win and always took the blame for any losses. If the team lost, it was because the coaches failed to prepare them according to Tomey…
Mahalo to the Seniors for a good season, you did more than anyone had given you credit for, including yours truly, the 10 win season is something no one can take from any of you. The best of luck in all that you do and cherish the memories of this season, few teams have 10 wins under their belt.
Good luck to the remaining Warriors, and good luck to the coaches. IMUA LANAKILA
If I were an NFL owner or GM, this is how I would look at my team for next year. Next to each of the listed psitions I have either the returning starters or strong returness who would probably start in September of 2011. An NFL team would look at the team in phases, with the 1st phase being the highest paid, down to the last phase. Of course this is just a model, which can be changed up by anyone. Each GM or owner has there own model to work with. This would be my model, which simply my personal preference if I owned an NFL team. Of course at camp time, all positions are open. Even returning starters have to earn their positions.
Phase 1:
1 – Quarterback – Bryant Moniz
1 – Left Tackle – Austin Hansen
1 – Pass Rush Defensive End – Paipai Falemalu
1 – Shutdown Corner – John Hardy-Tuliau
Phase 2:
1 – #1 WR – Royce Pollard
1 – Center – Matagisila Lefiti
1 – Stout DT – Kaniela Tuipulotu/ Vaughn Meatoga
1 – #1 LB – Corey Paredes
Phase 3:
1 – #2 WR – Open
1 – Right Tackle – Open
1 – FS – Open
1 – #2 Corner – Open
Phase 4:
1 – NFL TE / Hawaii #3 WR – Open
1 – NFL FB / Hawaii RB – Open
1 – #2 LB – Aaron Brown
1 – #2 DE – Liko Satele/Alasi Toilolo
Phase:5
1 – NFL RB / Hawaii #4 WR – Open
1 – OG – Open
1 – #3 LB – George Daily-Lyles
1 – SS – Richard Torres
Phase 6:
1 – #2 RB – Open
1 – OG – Open
1 – #2 DT – Haku Correa/Geordon Hanohano
1 – Nickelback(Corner) – Open
Phase 7:
1 – Long Snapper – Luke Ingram
1 – Kicker – Open
1 – Punter – Alex Dunnachie
1 – Kick Returner – Open
Phase 3 and 4 would be our key issues at spring ball.
Pride,
Once again, your wisdom speaks volumes….i hope that your Christmas was one filled with cherished memories.
Have a good weekend, and may 2011 bring you everything you ask for 🙂
Remember, above is the NFL model. Positions of course are interchangeable. I wouldn’t leave Troy Polamalu out of the first phase if he played for my team. Our 2010 Warrior team looked something like this:
Phase 1:
1 – Quarterback – Bryant Moniz(Jr.)
1 – #1 WR – Greg Salas(Sr.)
1 – Stout MLB – Corey Paredes(Jr.)
1 – Steady FS – Mana Silva(Sr.)
Phase 2:
1 – #2 WR – Kealoha Pilares(Sr.)
1 – #1 RB – Alex Green(Sr.)
1 – Stout DT – Kaniela Tuipulotu(Sr.)/ Vaughn Meatoga(Jr.)
1 – DE – Kamalu Umu(Sr.)/Paipai Falemalu(Jr.)
Phase 3
1 – LT – Austin Hansen(Jr.)
1 – RT – Laupepa Letuli(Sr.)
1 – LB – Aaron Brown(Jr.)
1 – CB – Jeremy Bryant(Sr.)
Merry Christmas Bulla. Keep working it. I know what you are doing. I get the weekly reports. Keep at it brother.
There are a few unsung heroes to the 2010 season. Players that had great years, but no one will talk about them because they didn’t make anyone’s All WAC teams.
LS – Luke Ingram (No mistakes that I can recall)
C – Bronson Tiwanak (Great year)
WR – Rodney Bradley (Never recovered from his injury; Defenses still had to respect his speed and production from 2009; Respect opened up opportunities for Salas and Pilares
DT – Vaughn Meatoga (Rock Steady/Great duo with Tuipulotu)
DE – Kamalu Umu (Monster Year)
LB – Aaron Brown (Monster playmaker; We’ll be watching him on Sundays)
CB – Jeremy Bryant (Steady performer out in space)
What I mean is that he battled every week even though he knew that he was struggling. Unselfish during the season. Whatever happened after the season is none of my business. I consider it a team and personal issue.
Seasons greetings,Hawaii football fans.
Top 15
Have a happy holiday season, Warrior fans.
I have these guys as JJ’s…
Scholie: Austin Hansen, Sila Lefiti, Clayton Laurel, Levi Legay, Drew Uperesa, Miah Owstrowski, Vaughn Meatoga, Alasi Toilolo, Waylon Lolotai, Pookela Ahmad (?), Kenny Estes
Walkons: Shane Austin, Joe Avery, Royce Pollard, Liko Satele, Corey Paredes, Richard Torres, Jordan Gomes
Might be more, but that’s what I gathered at the top of my head
Add Walkons Andrew Faaumu and J.E.T.T.
Minus Jordan Gomes and Pookela Ahmad (thought he had 1 more year like his Kapolei HS teammate Alasi)
Heard Out & About the Ceded Lands on Christmas Night:
My neighbor yelled, ROLL TIDE! at me when my car created a big wave of water in front of his house. The puddle of water was deep enuff to fish for Tilapia!
Back to bed, a loud crack of TUNDA just shook me out of a deep sleep…
Happy Holidays BigWave96744!
I was kinda just talking about you in post #18.
I hope the boys got what they wanted for Xmas!
>>> # 18.
Now that’s was too good.
Thanks for the humor Kekoa.
btw, luv the current Roll Tide commercial
Have a happy holiday season, Warrior fans.
CoolEthan ~ Yep…he saw that commercial on ESPN. We talked about it later over a few adult beverages. Closely examined the entire Bowl game – one painful interception at a time. Came to the conclusion that we wouldn’t be able to fix anything so we decided to table the discussion until next season.
Good morning Tsaikos everywhere…
There are two posts that spoke volumes to me yesterday.
Pride’s #285, which was most excellent.
and
Pride…#11…Guud observation..
After the game Bighilofan, his patnah and me was standing by the makai tunnel and Vaughn came by. We thanked him for a great season and of all the Warriors who were for the most part, understanablly stonefaced, he cracked a smile and threw one shaka.
Garret,
I’ll bet the coacheslooked all depressed after the game. I was too. Kazz said it best.
Pride said it better.
Its all about the mental.
The MENTAL separates the good from the best. Same in every other profession. Everything.
I was watching Coach Aranda run into the tunnel before the game, at the end of the warmups before the game. His game face was on. And he followed Rolovich into the tunnel. His game face was on too.
Great Warrior coaches, no doubt. But da bottom line is this. Coach Mack is gonna have to say something, at some point real soon.
What he chooses to say, and how he says what he chooses to say, will tell us alot about where we are going as a team.
Plain and simple
Coach Mack should attend a SYLVAN LEARNING CENTER tutorial. So that he can guide the other coaches. learn how and wat to say, so dat he gracefully says… yup…. was me….
because… AGAIN … on national television…..
the Redskins lost….
Applications for coaching jobs should be flying in by now…..
One coach posted some interesting thoughts about the coaching situation at UH…based on his comments, how do you get any recruits to come play for the Warriors?….seems like he telling kids until the situation changes, namely coaching, the program should not be expecting to hit the “Big Time”.
Interesting how one game can blow up the so called support for a rebuilding program.
I want it now because I pay you enough!…..ah yes…money solves everyting…
Pride of your #7 I think the most important part is ” Of course at camp time, all positions are open. Even returning starters have to earn their positions.” there are no giveme’s in football.
Wow…too much rain!…much to do today and going get soaked.
LizK….you must have your surf board and boat ready to navigate today huh? Be safe…
Coach,
all of us got our quirks. My suggestion for you is to allow the younger coaches, younger meaning younger than Miano, to be able to say straight up to you how they want to play people, develop the lower leval players.
like take Shane Austin. He was so scared, saw those big fast buggaz coming at him, he panicked and threw the duck for the INT. he’ll never forget that lesson, for sure…
same for the coaches… all of the coaches will NEVER forget the hard lessons handed out to them last night. no doubt. PAINFUL…. i no vstr hoe msny yimrd you gotten likeens in your life, to get one like dat on NATIONAL TV, Again, that was hard, very very hard.
So I’m gonna do my part to get the coaches ready for next year. Because I truly believe the players, AND the coaches, did a great great job this year. I mean it sincerely,
THANK YOU! for Hawaii.
NOW, GO DO SOME MIND CHANGING TUTORIALS so you no make plans for plan da same way next year.!
Go talk to Pride and his friend my cousin. smart buggaz dem two.
If you was one recruit and you was reading all the stuff on this venue…would you come to UH?
How would you get one kid to come play over here?…if no can, then no be disappointed the best kids go away to play…
Seems to take a long time to get over it….and peeps willing to blow up everything just to let out fraustrations…we get what we plant…someing la dat…
James Donovan
choose your words, and thought expressions, and say something now….
Coach Mack needs help… If you’re going to support him, and I think you should,
you should choose how you say you’re going to support him.
By action…. And Timing Is Everything. Do you wait until after the National game?
Nope, do it now. But you gotta work it out with him, because he’s got to say something too. Because if you’re going to teach Coach how to be a better coach, and I know, you inherited him too, because he was chosen by Miano, the Lee brothers, Lumpkin and McMackin, you inherited him because JJ just upped and quit on us.
still yet, this is the 4th year…. no mo excuses… none…
what was very painful for me was watcfhing those 3 Polys on the concourse, watching the Tulsa qb throw to the makai sidelines in front of the UH bench in the 34d quarter, and listening to one bugga tell one of his friends as da Tulsa receiver caught the ball and was outrunnin da coverage, he said “… look… look…. he going score…” and he was laughin da whole time he was making fun. He was making fun of our team, of Hawaii….
THAT was painful…. Yup, I took dat very personal.
Hey, no one said new post is up… Copy and paste:
LizKauai -iPad:
December 26th, 2010 at 5:29 am
Kama Krab. My faith is in Ke Akua. My support goes to those whom I see who are endeavoring to serve as teachers to our children. When those teachers are performing this service, they are, in effect, making their work an act of worship. Add to that the balanced approach to train not only the body and the mind, but also awaken the hearta to the benefits of team success over self aggrandizement, then we have something really special.
Winning is a result of successful learning. And losing is part of the learning proxess. I see all as good in the grand scheme of things.
What I do NOT want to see are people so fixated on winning that they lose the big picture. This is happening in the NFL and is not a good example for the way to run a college progran. Look where the Redskins might be if they had developed Colt. The Cardinals and the Cowboys played their outstanding young QBs last night to a thrilling conclusion.
The Skins are going through coaches and players through the seive of their organization because they are fixated on the material side of the game- ignoring people who have hearts and souls into their franchise and dumping them like so much baggage.
Let us not accept that model. It is short-sighted and a waste in every way.
When the kids grow up and see what the coaches are teaching them… And believe in something greater than themselves that allows them to become greater than themselves, they will experience the W. And it will be special.
NSF- da tunda woke me up. I was planning on sleeping in… Gonna be an interesting weather day. Gotta venture out eventually and get some 1/2 and 1/2 for my coffee. Might make scones today. Sitting my empty nest, left with only fuud and fuutball!
🙂
Pride..#7…next to the names in (..) should be …subject to revision…players could be out performed during the spring and fall camps. Some of the new recruits and redshirts look promising.
LizK..sounds like da plan..me..got too much to do today..getting ready to make some mochi this week….600+ lbs….!@#??!!
NorthShoreFan
I hear wat you’re saying…
Let me pt it this way. Caoch can write out a plan of action too. Last year Coach said Aranda is a big time defensive coach. He followed up his words by making Aranda the Defensive Coordinator. And Rolovich the Offensive Coordinator. I watched the game. You watched the game. The Tulsa players looked LEAN. The entire Tulsa team looked lean. My feeling, from the first time I saw them all on the field during warm ups, and watching them come out of the tunnel, my feeling was that they all came to Play football, and tey all came to win.. I saw that expression, written all over their faces.
My cousin says we need a Disciplinarian. He is right. I think Mack is headed that way. Being a Disciplinarian means the Warriors believe Coach is a disciplinarian. Not a friend, but a disciplinarian.
And, we need a Hammer. Not a very very good football player, but a Hmmer. A game changer. A Mind Bender. a Troy Polamalu. a Ben Roethlesberger. Corey Paredes could be next year’s hammer. He’s gotta want to be the Hammer. To be the Hammer the rest of the team has to believe you are the Hammer. You have to take charge of the team, fire the team up, fire them up to play above their individual levels. Coach could be the Hammer, but he’s got to change the way he thinks.
which is why I’m suggestin SYLVAN LEARNIN CENTER…. make fun of me all you like, i tryin fo make suggestions for positive change.
Coaches got some great recuits playin for da home team.. Paipai, Winchester, Geordon, Haku, and get more coming….
like I said, he doing good, i’m tryin for motivate him to get ova da national hump…
can…. i no he can…..
Hi ST and Tsaikos,
Happy day-after!!!
Nope, no tunda here in Foster Village…yet. But, it is raining cats and dogs!!! And a corner of our ceiling next to the front door is leaking.
Hope we don’t have probelms like Mississippi St. basketball.
BighiloFan2…Not making fun of nobody…like I posted on #30…would you come?
Sometimes suggestions could sound like something else. Good ones should be forwarded to the parties that can do something about it. Hardly constructive posting suff like that on the venue and hoping the people will be reading it. Go to the source.
Anyhoo…time fo get busy….Be Safe out there peoples…gonna be wet and wild the next few days…darn..my truck bed look like one swimming pool!!!Yikes!!!!
Bighilo…like borrow your canoe..if can…
NSF
honest to goodness, if I had the talent, YES I would…
Mmmm. Mochi…my fave. Plain. Enough to freeze and enjoy laters.
Happy pounding, NSF!
#30- There has to be a “VISION” for the program. The vision has to come from somewhere up above. I’m not sure where up above is, but somewhere up above.
I would say a committee made up of two former players, four community leaders who are members of Na Koa, and two UH reps from upper campus. Ninth member should be the AD, tenth and eleventh members should be the current and a former head coach.
That should be your football board that is actively adjusting and ensuring adherence to the vision.
I say to put it in the hands of the board because the vision needs to be larger than the AD or the head football coach. It should be worded in a way that will be adaptable for any coach to come in and comply with, yet specific enough to make sure that there is no misunderstanding from within the program. The vision has to be large and difficult to reach, yet manageable if all the stars were to align properly.
The vision is something that we can use when recruiting, so that young people know that no matter who is here as the coach, the vision will not change. The head coach will simply be the current manager of that vision.
Just an opinion on my part. I’m not saying that it is a solution, just an opinion
#7 – By the way, you are all welcome to take the #7 model and apply it to your favorite NFL team. Go at least through the first three phases and you will probably see why your team is performing well or not performing. You can also go through the teams roster and compare salaries, and you will see who the owners and management deem as important. Of course with the NFL, you need to take into account the market for the respective positions. The market for a QB is different than that for a right guard. In my opinion the right guard should get more money. But that isn’t reflected in the real market.
Great Morning All!
Hope erryboddy had the best possible HolyDay yesterday.
Haven’t gone thru all the comments from yesterday and not sure that I will but my last comment about Friday is, “Who’s f#*$&@ idea was it that their highlight film was so funny?”
Stay dry folks.
HiHo….
10-4 WAC Champs. Nice way to go into the new era.
A top priority for next year. Punt return team.
Steelers:
Phase 1:
O – QB. Ben Roethlisberger (2 Super Bowls/1 Pro Bowl)
O – LT. Jonathan Scott (Starter Max Starks is on Injured Reserve)
D – ROLB. James Harrison(2 SB/3 PB/1 Defensive POY-2008)
D – FS. Troy Polamalu (2 Super Bowls/5 Pro Bowls)
Patriots:
O – QB. Tom Brady (5 Pro Bowls/2 Super Bowl MVP’s)
O – LT. Matt Light (2 Pro Bowls)
D – OLB. Tully Banta-Cain (Two Super Bowl Rings)
D – CB. Devin McCourty (Drafted 1st round 2010)
Whoah, 30 more teams.
This is fact. Coach has been around a long time in the coaching business. The team believes in him. They publicly said they want him to have an extension. They are not going to change their public word, even after Friday nite.
Coach has to believe in himself and publicly say positive things so that it looks like he’s headed in the right direction. He’s gotta control the coaches and the players. He’s doing GREAT in several phases of the control game. Gotta do better in a coupla more, is all.
Hanohano and Correa stayed home. So did Paipai. These are big time named players. And they’re gonna get better, no doubts about it. They are part of McMackin’s, Miano and Lee’s pickings. Not the leftover class, these are first class players. If I looked at the roster I’d be able to name more, but you get the point. And the other Warrior coaches are getting big time players too. They’re getting better in their profession, no doubt about it.
I have hope for the future, I really do. But I also agree with what Pride and D1 just said.
You see what I mean? Dat big bugga is one smart big bugga….
okay. summa us gots to work. dat be me.. 😀
no mo time for sulk…. i no like outsink myself. 😀
hi ho hi ho. have a great Sunday Tsaikos.
esme woooshhhh….
#44 – Pride – I agree we do indeed need that vision, but I don’t know about the committee part, some times to many cooks spoil da kalua pig, but they do need a 5 or 10 year plan(vision) not just for football but all of the sports programs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/sports/football/26tackling.html?_r=1
I think the blogger was thinking I was criticizing Mo Moniz. He is just like 90% of all qb in college. Only very few have the God given gift for being pin point accurate. Even Timmy Chang wasn’t pin point accurate. Colt was. He had the accuracy to put the ball in receivers hands when they hardly had separation. I think the world of Moniz. He has become a good role model. He’s a inspirational leader. He will be a success off the field if football is not his calling in the pros.
North Shore Fan,
been thinking samoa bout how to say dis.
heroism, like truth, has no geographical or ethnical boundaries.
Coach Mack, Miano and the Lees were here for us when we really needed them, when June Jones left us. we all felt high and dry, and the UH hiring committee were feeling like day had to do sumtin.
June did not have the trust of. amd confidence in, our then athletic director Herm Frazier.
Greg McMackin has the trust of our athletic director, Jim Donovan. And, our Governor is doing something positive about UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII ATHLETICS. And, Virginia Hinshaw and Ms. Greenwood also support UH ATHLETICS. We went from “where we gonna go, to we going MWC and BW”
Coach been around. If I wuz an athlete, i just gotta do my part too. do my homework, no make procrastinatah. No talk like I like football, akk like I love football and know I gotta wipe my @$$ cuz dats part of da toilet trainin, gettin down to da nitty gritty.
That is why, if I was a super athlete from Hawaii, I would play for Hawaii. And I would DEMAND that my coaches act like day not just gettin a paycheck and hangin at Big City…
Because the truth is, the State of Hawaii is backing up the University of Hawaii. People who know, like Hanohano and Moniz ohana, for instance, know that McMackin and crew got Hawaii’s best interests at heart, and are willing to give peeps a second chance. This I know for a fact. Still yet, with compassion gotta have the disciplinarian factah, AND da Hammah!
And this is a Big BIG DIFFERENCE from the past. The UHAD get backup. BIG TIME BACKUP!
YUP, I WOULD PLAY FO HAWAII~
Describing a “hammer” brings to mind just one name, Niko Noga. In all of my years of watching UH football, I’ve not seen anyone play the game like him. Never appeared to take a play off, did not pound his chest after a big hit, played with such ferousity that other team alway made sure they knew where he was. When he almost single handedly took out two (or was it three) QBs in a game (against New Mexico, if I remember correctly), I thought and still think, folks on the other side of the ball must think this guy eats nails.
I don’t believe we’ve had anyone like him since.
The disciplinarian was of course Coach Tomey. His teams rarely if ever beat themselves. All three phases had a philosophy and executed well (I did hate their offensive scheme).
We are still weak at special teams play.
We need a change @ the top in 2012. MAC has to go. Period. That being said, Rolo has made positive progress, ditto with Coach Aranda. I thought Mouse was a positive contribution in Rolo’s development and quite frankly, is ageless in terms of coaching and tutoring. Kudos to Mouse. He keeps ticking like the bunny. Again, both Rolo and Aranda show talent and are moving on a steep learning curve. Credit MAC for giving them a shot….but not enuff credit for an extension–we need more gray-matter at the top and he simply doesnt have it.
As I mentioned in a previous posts, I would like to see Rolo, use our slots to run the perimeter sweeps to keep the defense honest ala Troy and Oregon. We must evolve and keep our O from becoming static and predictable where DEs zero in on our QBs like they were party-time pinyatas.–given time for preparation–good D-minds will envelop us and exploit vulnerabilities in our system–exactly what Tulsa did with a less than quality D.
BSU, a good D-team, simply embarrased us.
Our run n shoot cannot make it against quality defenses without a legit perimeter running game. College football has caught up to our O and has found a way to shut down our passing game by putting pressure on our QB from the edge. Sampson has the speed to get to the outside quickly but he needs to gain more strength and definitely will be a project for SC Tommy Heffernan . Just rambling….I cant figure out why Sampson wasnt redshirted…oh well.
OL Coach Gordie Shaw is solid and is rebuilding our stock w core fundamentals.
We need to keep improving here and Shaw has a capable inventory to work with to mold a future.
Coaches need to re-think our grayshirt program in terms of numbers. IMO, it aint working on the current scale to merit continuation. Do the math without the sugar coating. To be competitve with the upper-half of the MWC in 2012, namely BSU, SDSU, AFA, FSU and Nevada, we need to keep pace with them in recruiting. I dont see it.
Thus far, we are definitely behind BSU and SDSU. We have a few good picks this year, the rest are too iffy….Juda Parker would be great, but we need more speed (like Aaron Brown) all around or athleticism like Hardy as a common denominator. Both prototypes are great examples to build a base. David Graves is another example of a solid multi-purpose athlete.
In short, there are both upsides and downsides to the program, so the glass is half-full.
Hopefully, Donovan will do the right thing and strengthen the knot where it is needed….but, that is another story.
Unfortunately for McMackin, the salary will always be a sticking point for fans, foes, etc.
And in the emotions of the loss, people are angry, frustrated, etc., and want punishment, change, etc.
For instance, “Ferd” wants to restructure McMackin’s contract. OK, fine, but that only solves Donovan’s problems.
Will a lower-paying contract make McMackin a better coach? If he were paid $600,000 would UH have beaten Tulsa?
If UH wants a coaching change — following a 10-4 season — then whom does it attract with, say, a $500,000 salary? Not a sitting head coach. Not Kenny Niumatalolo, nor Paul Johnson, nor Rich Ellerson.
Say, Nick Rolovich is promoted. He’s a sharp guy, good ties with the islands. But then you lose him as an offensive coordinator. And if he’s a head coach who calls the plays, which is a pretty difficult dual task, well, he already calls the plays. Does that make UH a better team? Or just a more affordable one? And if the latter is the case, then, again, the only one to benefit is Donovan.
The loss was tough for the Warriors.
It’s inexcusable that three upper-classmen were not eligible to play.
Is it worth restructuring the system? I’m not an AD. I have no idea.
But it seems like it’s easier to make home repairs than razing the building.
Thoughts?
This is my suggestion on what Hawaii needs to do first if they want to get better as a team. Have all the coaches give a self evaluation on their performance this year. And than have all
the coaches evaluated by his peers and by the players including the head coach. As a fan and spectator this would be my evaluation for the UH coaches.
Special teams kicking coach: D- shanked punts and kickoffs going out of bounds
defensive secondary: to many broken assignments
linebackers; C C- though Paredes had a monster year to many times he was the man left out to cover the opposing teams best inside receiver.
d line: B solid all year even the subs
o line: C+ considering this was a new lineup they more than held their own
receivers: B+ can’t be perfect
running back: B+
qb: C-: against the better teams
head coach if what was reported is true that the team laughed at the other teams highlights
you get a D. First time against ND now Tulsa
OC: when your QB says they knew our routes and were jumping the lanes, I was confused,
doesn’t that tell you something about your offensive schemes: C-
DC: from the first game to the last game you did not improve at all: D
RB,receivers and DL coaches did a great job and OL coaches too
Promote from within –
Miano, Tormey, Shaw, Tuioti starting at $450 w/ incentives
Keep Rolo and Aranda as OC, DC. Bump up salaries of the productive coaches.
More team, less ego.
450,000
Im not calling for another Sherman’s march through lower Manoa, just a surgical strike where it is needed.
BTW, Cory and Salas had great seasons and just incredible examples of our football program.
Words simply dont do justice to their accomplishment. Wish those sheep grants on the upper level could be used to clone to their warrior spirit. They both embody the meaning.
My immediate need to find would be a good run DE. I thought Purcell did a pretty good job but if you can’t stop the run all is lost. Good cover cbs would be next. I hope UH can find a leader on the oline like Samson too.
I was thinking, if UH runs a read-and-react offense, then the defense, in some situations, is calling UH’s offensive plays. And with enough preparation time — C-USA teams actually had nearly two months to prepare for the Warriors — a defense will be able to pre-read UH routes. In some situations.
The system is restructured, no matter what we think, say or do.
Nothing is as it was and nothing will go back to the way it was.
We live in a world, the foundations of whose societies have been changed into something new and different. As has been mentioned, it will take vision.
Who knows whether there will even be an NCAA 10 years from now? Nations will discover that war is bankrupting their societies in every way and something must be done to eliminate this useless sacrifice. Materialism has become a false god and we can already see in football how a deep pocketbook does not a superbowl team make.
The ones who have the best chance of survival in these days are the ones who put the welfare of people before all else. I believe our coaching team does this and this is why they are appreciated by me. Coach Mack is someone I would send my own child to if football were his dream.
GO WARRIORS!
prep time = practice time, and the decision from the top was, not needed
that’s 10+ extra practices to help w/ the younger players and future of the program
decisions may seem right, but often short-sighted
auwe
ST what i think they do is they know UHs passing trees. So they show the qb and have him read what they think they are going to do then run and beat the receiver to the spot. By the time Moniz sees what is happening the ball is in the air. They just seemed to know where the ball was going.
rah rah is good, but it is an emotion
so is utter humiliation
ok, I pau
I’m wondering if UH should have its walk-throughs at Aloha Stadium. Especially since it’s three weeks between games there.
Don’t agree with #62. If there is a major weak link, it’s special teams. We need to have someone there, Like Aranda and Rolo who have maturing knowledge, shaping up that unit. Late to report, out of position, poor coverage all point to a weakness.
Special teams are a key element to a successful football team. this area hurt us.
Heffernan did a great job with the players. Players need to dedicate themselves to his program.
ST, I agree with Ferd. Restrudcture the contract. If the HC is that certain he is on the right track and can lead his coaching staff and players to meet all elements of a successful program, do it. He’ll look like he is a team player (UH) and can still amke his $1Million plus when he achieves all his goals:
Don’t agree with #62. If there is a major weak link, it’s special teams. We need to have someone there, Like Aranda and Rolo who have maturing knowledge, shaping up that unit. Late to report, out of position, poor coverage all point to a weakness.
Special teams are a key element to a successful football team. this area hurt us.
Heffernan did a great job with the players. Players need to dedicate themselves to his program.
ST, I agree with Ferd. Restrudcture the contract. If the HC is that certain he is on the right track and can lead his coaching staff and players to meet all elements of a successful program, do it. He’ll look like he is a team player (UH) and can still amke his $1Million plus when he achieves all his goals:
I like defensive minded head coaches. All they need to do is find a good offensive coordinator. I think Aranda may be the one to watch.
I was thinking that they should have had their practices at the stadium.
Or close practices so that there would be no outside distractions.
I really don’t know what all this fuss is about in firing coach Mack. Doesn’t everyone see the progress from his first year? Sure, he’s learning to be a head coach, but I see progress. It’s not perfect, but very teams are perfect at this stage of the year. Even the loser of the Auburn-Oregon game will be a loser. I bet some people will want the coach of the losing team fired too. Being a head coach is making soooo many decisions apart from x and o. Some decisions that people don’t really think of like, what color uniforms the team will wear. What kind/color of uniforms the coaches wear. Where and what kind of food the team eats before the game. What time will practice be. When will they leave the hotel/school to get to the game. When will time be given on the road for studying. What focus will practice be on, on all phases of “d”, “o”, and special teams. How long each phase of practice, whether warm ups, conditioning, weight lifting,running the ball on O, passing O, defending the run, defending the pass, etc.. Who do we recruit? What types of players we will need. Who plays and for how long.I guess I am giving you just a slight idea of what the responsibilities of the head coach is. Sure he has his staff to do a lot of the work, but he has to oversee just about everything that goes on with the team and still have to answer to the media and fans. Every decision made by the team, has to go through the head coach as he is responsible for the team. Yes, he lets his O and D and special team coordinators do a lot of it but, they still have to get his approval as to what kind of approach to take. I just don’t want to be like Maryland to fire a coach with a winning record and bowl game invite. I see improvement in Coach Mack from the first year in most phases of the football team. This is his first head coaching job and never, ever had this much responsibility as an assistant coach, no matter how long he has been coaching. Even his talking to the media has improved, although it’s not perfect. NSF and others are right about all this talking about firing coach Mack is not helping recruiting so lets be more considerate of what we say on the blog and in public. If he deserved to be fired, then I will probably be right there with the rest of the fans calling for his head. Who really, really expected this 10 win season anyway? Very few of us.
Jets marching. 1st down.
Rolo isnt ready to be top kick–not yet, he needs more grooming, more time to devolp his unique football instincts, coaching resources, recruiting networks and general knowledge for the game and administration. However, Rolo, is definitely, an heir to the throne in-waiting.
72 – I agree, speshell Teams has been a problem, but is it due to a lack of ST by the entire staff, and HC?
I suggested Tormey as a possible alternative as he has HC experience and is familiar w/ the program and culture. I would consider Miano and Tuioti first, but worry about their lack of experience. Of course, the current HC had very little experience and it shows. And at 66, it’s too late to be learning on the job.
ok, now I pau
Random thoughts:
This talk about firing Mack is silly. I’d be on board IF the program hadn’t shown progress these past three years, but it has, clearly. Now I’m NOT saying that Mack is perfect, ALL coaches everywhere can bear improvement and the grass is always greener elsewhere if you CHOOSE to see it that way. As great a coach as Dick Tomey was, he was harshly criticised for never winning the “Big One.”
One area where MACK and staff have scored VERY high marks in my book are with the CHARACTER of the players he has brought in. These kids are solid citizens as far as I can tell and I therefore support them wholeheartedly. We don’t have McDonald’s five star All Americans on this team, but we don’t have teammates brawling in the stands either. Our Warriors play hard, play fair and play with max effort.
The assistant coaches serve at the will of the HC. How can JD dictate who will and will not get a raise or who will or will not be retained? That kind of stuff totally undermines the HC.
Ryan Henry was our punt returner. He suffered a season ending knee injury. Who should have been back there? Isn’t the strategy to “put the ball in the hands of your playmakers?”
More practices would have been good. As I recall it, the first week of no practice occurred because the coaches all went on recruiting trips. This is part of the price we all pay to live in Hawaii. Logistically, our players and our coaches have the toughest jobs in the country. Even neighbor island games involve a stay over. Would it have been better to skip recruiting the mainland altogether?
whitey:
As I recall, GEN George C. Marshall, as Army Chief of Staff during WWII, in his explanation of Leadership and Unity of Command said, “As a staff officer I have the responsibility to make recommendations. Once a decision is made, I have 2 choices; support it 100% or resign.
Guess General of the Armies, Douglas MacArthur, did not believe in this and was ultimately relived of his command during the Korean War by Pres Truman; nor does GEN Pace, Commandant of the Marine Corps.
This principle applies to the civilian and military worlds we live in.
Good morning everyone!
One of the 3 best posts this morning. Yup, if I were a high school recruit and I hear that the head coach with a 10-4 record should be fired, has only 2 years left on his contract with no extension yet… my football future would be safer elsewhere. You can bet the other schools recruiting Hawaii players are sending the URL of the negative stuff to their HI recruits–if they are not reading it now on their own.
This should not be the time to ask for Coach Mack’s head because UH lost the Hawaii Bowl. Yes, it was a very dissappointing loss but this single game does not define a season!
Agree with others who said that there has been improvement in the first 3 years and he should be recongized for this. Coach Mack will be entering his most important year, #4, of his 5 years as most of the players will be his recruits. Let 2011 be the year to determine if UH needs to make a HC change. Publically, the players have stated their support of him as the HC.
Coach Mack should be given a 2 or 3 year extension of his current contract, but with a lower salary, maybe in the $650- $700 K range; any savings from the $1.1 mil should be awarded to his assistant coaches.
One area that needs a lot of attention is SPECIAL TEAMS! Why is it common place that UH punt returners must call for a fair catch nearly 100% of the time?; especially the past 4 games? Have you noticed that UH returner is surrounded by opponents just before the ball is caught? Punts have not been espcially high. Is there not a “blacking scheme” in place to allow a return? Major emphasis should be given from now, through Spring training, and during summer practices. Is this Tormey’s plan/scheme? Do opponents really have better “gunners”/blocking than UH? Would not be surprised in the final polls that UH is dead last in punt return yards.
Happy holidays, blog readers.
#84 A-House, That’s what I always wondered and not just that the UH games are pau. From earlier in the season, where does UH rank in the nation in punt returns? Counting all the fair catches and sometimes fumbles for negative yards or a turnover doe we have negative yards for the year?
One thing UH needs is better non-conference scheduling.
Last year, the Warriors had three consecutive road games (although they went home between the second and third games).
This year, it was two in a row.
Next year, again, back-to-back.
These are non-conference games, so UH did have control.
But missing 20 school days — not just overall days, but a month of school in a three-month semester — is terrible. You can take all of the tutors you want, and have as many study halls, but if, say, you’re taking a language course, that’s a lot of missed time. Say, you have a Monday-Wednesday-Friday sked, player is missing two classes per non-California trip. Way too much.
#86 doe = do. kala mai, phat phingers.
But all of this talk is ruining the mood of … the Jets making the playoffs.
Can I get a J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
ST – #89 – you gonna thank the team that made it possible? HTTR!!!
ST congrats to the J-E-T-S , JETS, JETS ,JETS. Did Wayne Hunter start again?
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
… trying to the blog host. 😳
BTW, add WarriorMojo’s post #81 to my top 4 for today so far.
Paying the HC $600k instead of $1M may not affect his coaching ability but it does free up $400k in the budget for Coordinator pay.
Would that be commensurate with the relative importance of the contributions that came from those two positions this past season to the “improvement” in the program from Year One? Or should some of that trickle down to Position coaches?
#47,
hahaha i can just imagine the look on your face the moment you read that about the banquet.
for some reason Hawaii and/or coaches often say the wrong things at the wrong times.
….or maybe another Compliance Officer on staff?
(“you know who you are” can thank me for that plug later 😉 )
iwwthm,
Absolutely.
Where was the institutional awareness from the Holiday Bowl experience?
#83,
The “other schools” sending the URL’s to the recruits better have a record where their own fans aren’t calling for their heads. If they don’t well we can go ahead and do the same thing and forward the URL of their fans as well.
You gonna have people calling for the jobs of Coaches every season at even the most promising of programs. Look at Urban Meyer his first year at Florida, Mike Leach, Llyod Carr, Les Miles, Rick Neuhesel, Steve Spurrier, heck even had Pete Carroll!!!!…They even have fully loaded website dedicated to these “causes”
My point is you are going to get this no matter what program you look at…even the BEST programs you will have detractors. I DOUBT it makes any difference in the long run.
I think things like the coaching staffs relationship to the recruit, how the team is performing and their overall competitiveness and strength nationally, and what are their chances of playing immediately are of far greater importance to any player with 2 cents to rub between his ears.
I like that post too, SteveM. It’s obvious that Coach Mac has been on a learning curve, and he’s done better over time.
There were reasons why we looked like we did against Tulsa. The coaches all know what they would do differently next time. So do the players. Let them search their souls and make adjustments as they need to. Being ready to play is job one!
I am proud that the Warriors went 10 and 4. My belief in them dictates that I feel they should have been 11 and 3 after the bowl game.
Nuff said.
GO WARRIORS!!!
d1,
i can’t say for sure, but the Tulsa coaches pumped up their team. The way I have heard Graham speak about the Hawaii Bowl, his respect for Hawaii as a great team, and how badly they really really really want to win this, national rankings etc.
He really said all the right things over his interviews that pointed to a “business first trip” and that their sole focus is to win first, have fun second…
You couple that with the fuel we added to their fire at the banquet AND the fact that Tulsa is a pretty darn good football team. They lost to Boise St. last year (Fiest Bowl Champs) by less than a touchdown.
What do you get? You get a real tough ball game if u come prepared to play.
Keep this in mind
#97.
just wanted to add this. I’m not saying that this kind of talk is helpful, but probably not as harmful as many talk about.
what is more harmful is having empty seats in the stands. the recruits we have a real shot at will come to games…those fans, that energy, that “picture” is 10000000000000x more impressionable than any one or 10 things some anonymous person online is typing out.
After next season Hawaii not going be playing the last four teams on that list (8 wins)
….sorry, should be five (but I never setup the list! 😉 ). So make that 10 wins.
Of course, if you want a real “reality check” try do the same lists with only the OOC games.
Give credit to the Tulsa coaching staff. Their offense got stuffed in the first half. Two pick sixes, one pick returned to the three and a 7 yard punt for a short FG gave them their 24. For the 3rd quarter they HUDDLED UP(adjustment made), went to play action to make the the LBs, safeties and nickel step forward then drop into coverage.
Aranda and Rolo are really good at game planning but they’re young. They need to grow a little more to make the “in game” adustments to counter what the opponent is doing. This loss was a definite learing moment for both.
Apparently Mack didn’t learn too much from the Boise game. That you can’t expect good results when you give a well coached team, fighting for their place in the rankings, twice as much prep time as you.
out of curiosity…what was that multi colored flag that was brought out when the warriors came out onto the field?
Depends how big da ‘imu bruddah. 🙂
yeah, they won alot of games this season and that’s great BUT schedule was soooo weak. nevada only worth mentioning. look at what a good upper-level team like boisest. did to us, jus annihilated us. wac is so weak, i hope uh gets better d-wise cuz it’s gonna be hard when we change conference and play in a tougher conference. yeah, moniz had a good year but a role model and leader?? hhmph! find out the real reason he was suspended in the beginning of the year, i’m sure you’d think otherwise. as for mack, i dunno. good guy, good assistant but too soft maybe? oh well, go warriors!
Kanaka Maoli flag
Good afternoon,Tsaiko Nation. Read all your posts after another dissapointed lost in a BIG game situation. You have so many problems with distance, athletic budget, fan support, opponents schedule, athletes elgibility and now questions concerning your head coach.
Maybe the bar is set to high for UH to BEAT the big time schools and in reality UH is really a mid tier program that can win against teams such as San Jose, New Mexico, Idaho and La Tech but asking for WINS vs. the Georgia, Florida, Notre Dame and USC is really out of reach as I personally would enjoy being COMPETITIVE then getting blown and embarresed off the field. Recruiting is the key to success and the philosophy that this current athletic
administration does towards it needs to be re-evaluated as your BEST recruits are your former athletes and right now UH does a PATHETIC job in this area. There are so many of
us out there that will be more then HAPPY to point Hawaii in the right direction with their connections and recources BUT we are nothing but an NCAA violation as the other schools use their former players in many capacities to get the PRIZE recruit as I have witness it personally being at alumni functions UCLA, USC and San Diego State. Until this area starts IMPROVING then Hawaii is going to be second fiddle and being dissapointed in the BIG game
in my own opinion.
LOVE UH as being a former player I find WAYS to help you as I am active in recruiting students for you at College fairs, speaking at public venues to bring Hawaii to many young and older generations who want to visit not only the Islands but invest kala to your causes and athletic department. I wear Hawaii every day and not ONE day go bye that I don’t get interest from athletes, parents, pedestrians and high influential people. You may not know it but you have PARADISE that can sell here to the mainland as I “giv m” to the bruudas and sistas with POSITIVE results. LWC has made THOUSANDS of dollars with many of silent auction items that I got for them from Dodgers, Lakers, Clippers, Disney Incorporated and Universal Studios City Walk.
To me it’s all about the COMPASSION for you GREAT folks and the DESIRE to help you through THICK or THIN. Once a bow ALWAYS a bow as I would LOVE my former athletes to have this dedication but I cannot speak for them but only for myself. I feel IF we can’t change the situation that what can we do to HELP the situation as your fan support needs to keep coming, money to help the athletic department, volunteering your time for UH causes and keep spreading the ALOHA to people of all genders that Hawaii is “AWESOME” !
Don’t ever get down Hawaii Nei this is all a process of getting to that goal that WE all want here to WIN the BIG game ! It will HAPPEN but in order we must be AFFIRMATIVE and do what we can to help any way possible. Simply The Best, Better Then All The Rest !
Keep the Faith, Keep Believing and stay “PRO HAWAII” !
81: How has Coach Mac shown improvement? The only good (at best) teams he’s beaten are Nevada, Fresno State, Navy, and a dismal Wash. State program. If Hawaii wants to settle for this sort of mediocrity then they should just switch to D1-AA in my opinion. Sure, he had 10 wins, but they were against cupcakes.
Coach Mack’s Wins: 23 Wins
Navy
Army
Charleston-Southern
Weber St.
Central Arkansas
UNLV
Washington St.(2X)
Fresno St.(2X)
Louisiana Tech(2X)
Nevada(2X)
Utah St.(2X)
San Jose St.(2X)
Idaho(2X)
New Mexico State(3X)
Coach Mack’s Losses: (18 Losses)
Wisconsin
USC
Colorado
Tulsa
Cincinnati
Florida
Oregon St.
San Jose St.
Utah St.
Notre Dame
UNLV
Louisiana Tech
Idaho
Fresno State
Nevada
Boise State(3X)
This is Mack.s second HC job. Not his first and he is doing a terrific job
Recruiting is the only thing we have to keep rolling up and onward befitting a MWC contender.
The improvement is in winning the games you are supposed to win and a couple that you weren’t supposed to. This year, that comes out to 10 wins.
The improvement is in a much better defense.
There is still a lot of room for improvement, but there was obvious progress this year.
ST – Throughout the game, does the defensive coach talk to the offensive coach to tell him what he sees the other defense doing? Alternatively, does the offensive coach tell the defensive coach what he sees while our defense is on the field? With the coaches as with the players, it should be a team effort. We might be able to react quicker if everyone is talking to each other so we can recognize schemes that the other teams are using against us. Such as dropping the linegbackers into coverage after the ball is snapped. It’s just a question since I have no college football experience and am just a spectator.
2011 Wish List:
1. Extension of at least 2 years for McMackin…
2. Closed practices except for one day during game week…
3. No more extended trips to the mainland (come home after the game then go back)…
4. Increased salaries for all assistants…
Thank You Santa!
The people who are calling for changes and firings remind me of my 10 year old nephew. When he comes to games every time the opponents score a touchdown he says ” aww uncle we not going win” no matter where we are in the game. Even if it’s in the first half. But it’s understandable when it comes from a 10 year old. Since when did we become a program where 10 wins isn’t good enough. And I’ve been a season ticket guy since Larry Price. When we win the opponent must be weak. That’s bs. There are more good football players today than at any time in history. Only the top 2.8% of all the eligible football players in America get awarded D-1 scholies. Check the rosters of NFL teams and you will see there are many players from the so called weak teams. Too bad more fans couldn’t just enjoy the season for what it is. It was a great year for many of us and more was accomplished by a hard working group of athletes and coaches than anybody expected.
BigIslandFan2 wrote: same for the coaches… all of the coaches will NEVER forget the hard lessons handed out to them last night. no doubt. PAINFUL…. i no vstr hoe msny yimrd you gotten likeens in your life, to get one like dat on NATIONAL TV, Again, that was hard, very very hard.
I know you are being an opimist, but these same coaches also got emarrassed in the 2008 HI Bowl… some were even on staff for the 2007 Sugar Bowl..
People need to stay calm and enjoy the holidays. Be thankful, for a lot of things including being healthy. I was disappointed in the bowl loss, but what can you do. Let’s move on.
In retrospect, Hawaii had a great season. In Mack’s 3 years we were 7-7, 6-7, and now 10-4 w/ a co-championship. In 2009, Greg Alexander got hurt and we probably should have had a winning record and go to a bowl game too. We blew a game at UNLV in 2009 and Alexander got hurt the following week at La Tech. To win a championship, you win with a great defense. You defense played well enough this past season and showed improvement over the prior year. We have to replace those that Stephen mentioned, especially in the secondary and both DEs. I think we’ll be okay at the DT positions and at linebacker. But, we have to continue to get better. How we lost to Tulsa was turning the ball over 6 times, plus a shanked punt for 8 yards. We enemy was ourselves. Our offense is good enough, but we can get better by controlling the ball by improving our rushing. The mark of future teams will center on creating a rock solid defense and finding the next holy grail, a QB who will take us to the promised land. I’m trying to be optimistic and I believe the future is bright for our Warriors. Marketing needs to be creative and Under Armour needs to get some new dazzling apparel and uniforms. It is all about selling the product. Look good, feel good, and do good on the field also. Happy New Year to everybody!
Condolences to the Gaines family. So young, so sad.
Ditto.
God bless and comfort to the Gaines family.
On offense, Briian Smith, Mouse Davis and Inoke Funaki send reports to Rolo, who signals the play.
On defense, Aranda is in the booth, so he callas Miano, who flashes the play call.
Chris Gaines was a classy, classy guy.
He’ll be missed.
More than a good basketball player, Chris Gaines was just a real nice guy. Condolences to his family and to the Hawaii basketball community who have lost a dear friend.
Like my good neighbor, I too am opptimistic for 2011 Warrior team! I am still confident that their record will be NO LESS than 11 – 2!
Yes, the team lost a lot of excellent players, but the “cupboard” is loaded with just as good or may be better (later on) when they are Jrs and Srs.
And, the 2011 recruiting is not yet done. A few more quality recruits as the skilled positions, Oline & Dline, and of course let’s not for “al’s” holy grail. This one I gottsah see!!!
It’s a soft schedule for next year.
Only two games they should be underdogs are the Washington and Nevada games, and, again, both teams are losing their QBs.
On paper, they could go 13-0. But games aren’t played on paper, and things happen. But if they play to their potential, they should do well.
Is it mandated that UH is the visiting team for the bowl? Seems that we do better as the “home team.”
You know…as much as this has been a crappy Christmas for me sports wise (my Warriors loses to Tulsa, my Lakers lose to Miami, and my 49ers lose to St. Louis), I’m proud of our Warriors team. Only in Hawaii…I swear…you can go 10-4 and co-WAC champions when everyone in the universe picked us to finish in the middle or towards the bottom, find any/every manini thing to whine about. How crappy our team is, our coach/staff sucks, we cannot recruit, our tutors suck cuz 3 top guys were ineligible, we wore the white unis, Moniz got out the wrong side of the bed, blah blah blah. All I can say after that is….SHEEEESH! Das all.
someone on this blog mentioned we play BYU @ aloha next year, if so, Colorado, WASH and BYU should be quality out-of-conference challenges. Not to worry about the huskies, they are loaded to bear at QB, not to mention papa-Montana’s son and six blue-chip born n raised islanders who will be itching to bring misery to their visiting cousins.
BYU, returns their frosh QB who should be better after going through his right-of-passage season. The cougars won 5 of their last 6 games and closed with a 52-24 bowl victory over utep. We got stomped in our bowl game.
In 2011, Hawai’i plays four WAC games on the road and three at home.
Based on staters, Hawai’i will lose 8 on Offense.
Now, who looks bad on paper?
Sorry, given the facts, I neither see a soft schedule nor a slam-dunk season–please look at the other teams roster. It makes a difference.
Aloha Chris Gaines. Condolences to his Ohana.
#112 Dennis Halloran, Where and when was coach Mack’s 1st head coaching job? I’m sure you’re right but I thought UH was his first since he had many assistant coaching positions all over the place. Small school?
Oregon Tech (D2) 86-89.
Guess who was his OC?
F-I-U!
F-I-U!
F-I-U!
Hey, gotta watch sumting…..
Ladies and Gentelmen our season starts today.
nuff said
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That wahine LizK, she goin get it. I was standing up at the bar touching the TV and thinking all of my best positive thoughts for the Warrior team. I was loving them through the flat screen, and guess what, neva help. We still went lose da game. But afta da game my friends went look at me funny kine, and said bruddah, you gotta sit somewhere else. Lose money.
Hawaii enjoyed a great season, 10 wins and 4 losses. Most of us knew we had a good team and what was achieved was beyond our expectations. Give credit where credit is due. Mahalo to Coach Mac, his coaching staff, players and everyone else connected to the program including the media and the fans.
It was fun following the Warriors this season. It looked like they were invincible after the Fresno State game until we got whipped by Boise State. That defeat brought us back to reality.
We agonize in defeat and become ecstatic when we win. It reminds me of the sign back of the cashier in California Hotel when you go back to get more cash. It said, “Remember it’s just entertainment”. That’s what football is all about for us fans. It is just a game and the best entertainment in town.
I am looking forward to another great season next year with the current coaching staff and new recruits augmenting the ones coming back.
GO WARRIORS!
ST #125 – I like the way you think!
PRIDE #123 – Amen!
I remember him – really classy guy.
I remember that I used to make fun by saying to people that if you must fool around, go to Waterloo, IA because no one will spot you there!
Then came Chris – a great guy – and I think another WVB also came to UH!
We need more of those Waterlooans here! Great people!
Rest in peace Chris!
Fuzzy Duck- You did your best- as did we. Nothing lost due to our efforts!
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Congrats to the SoftBows- Leahey and Leahey’s UH Team of the Year!
Give credit to Chris Gaines. He came all the way from Iowa to play for us. And, he stuck it out for 4 years, and holds the all time career scoring record. Not to mention, he’s a lefty and left handed guys are supposed to be very talented. Yes, I’m left handed but I have no comment beyond that. Hehe, hehe! My sympathy to his family. 41 is too young. Sometimes it is very hard to understand but the Lord has a plan for all of us.
You guys call yourself Warrior fans when all I read is condemnation for our football players, coaches, staff,and administration and justifying the persecution by saying you just want our Warriors to have national recognition and low and behold a team that will give our moneys worth because the taxpayers are paying for the entertainment and depending on the Warrior team to make your christmas holiday a good one. Sure we all want improvement and wins, but come on, enough is enough. If I was a young impressionable recruit and read all the degrading remarks on this blog, I wouldn’t want to be part of a football team whose state supports you on the condition that you only win. These so called fans posting all the demeaning remarks here are truly fair weather fans! We’re lucky we even have a football team! Maybe that’s why you put all your eggs in one basket and depend on the warriors win loss record for your emotional state! We’re lucky the Hawaii Bowl wasn’t like the loss Boise had to endure after playing Nevada with higher stakes on the line. We only have one team and if you don’t like it, support the one that will only give you an emotional high! Go to the SEC blogs to post your admiration.
I was at the game and yes I was bummed not just because our team lost, but because I knew how bad these young players must feel. With regards to the ineligible players, I was disappointed that they weren’t more responsible for their academics and education. I wasn’t upset because they couldn’t play for the opportunity to win so that I could feel good about my christmas. I fet bad for the coaches who I truly believe prepared the team but came up way short.
So to the coaches, staff, and our players….Thank you for a wonderful season and know we can top this 10-4 season next year. To the staff and coaches, I recognize the vast improvement from last year and to the players, I acknowledge the hard work you put in to your academics and physical training. The loss to Tulsa will give you so much opportunity to improve so I am looking forward to seeing what was learned in 2011. To Moniz…so glad you are coming back and leading the team next year with so many new talents for your targets.
To the new recruits…don’t let one game or the critics deter you. Remember, we’re the WAC champions and had a winning season and will be even better next year. Remember, for every one critic there are one hundred more supporters.
I like post #141……..GO WARRIORS!
Chris Gaines is a year younger than I. Remember how lanky his was? Something like 6’5″ 170 lbs. I remember the cover of one UH basketball media guide featured him on the cover, with nylon sweats filled to make him look super huge. A few years ago on sports talk radio, I heard that at the time he had really put on weight, with the guy quoted as saying he had probably put on maybe 100 lbs since his playing days…literally. Thought this was ironic given that media guide cover shot many years ago…
We seem to have a lot of armchair head coaches here, sooo just for the heck of it lets see how good you really are. So to all of you I invite you to play a little game with me, If you got da ala’s!!!!!!!
UH 2011 win/lost predictions.
Pomai 12-1
I’ll keep track and at the end of next season we’ll be able to see who makes the right calls.
Condolences to the family and friends of Chris Gaines; hope the outpouring of appreciation is some solace for them in coming days. He is one of the good guys — like so many who have played for UH over the years. And isn’t that part of why we are so tied to UH athletics? Sportsmanship and athleticism and effort on the field or court; growth of good human beings off it?
Condolences to the Gaines’ ‘ohana.
Pomai – 2011: 8-5.
The real world doesn’t operate that way.
#141 ~ Right on! In the end, it’s only a game. It’s a team made up of student-athletes. The most important thing for these young people is to graduate from college. Playing at the next level is gonna be a personal accomplishment for a few of them. Most will rely on their college degree to help them on to the next level in life.
They are all trying their best when they are playing for UH. I support them no matter what.
cattle call tuesday
1130
maple garden restaurant
chinese buffet
ipu man please show up to receive your colt brennan autographed pix.
please give me your headcount.
note hear on the warrior beat
al,
I’ll probably go. If my son is not out surfing (in the rain), he’ll be there with me to meet my Tsai-ko-tic friends.
al – barring some crisis of the day at work, I’ll be there!
We seem to have a lot of armchair head coaches here, sooo just for the heck of it lets see how good you really are. So to all of you I invite you to play a little game with me, If you got da ala’s!!!!!!!
I’ll keep track and at the end of next season we’ll be able to see who makes the right calls.
Pomai 12 – 0
ai-eee-soos 8 – 5
al I told ma yesterday
al
weather permitting, I will be there.
Pomai-
LizKauai 10-3 (w/bowling win)
Sorry to miss the CC… coming in late afternoon to see Cats!
hiflyer…why you going walk?
So, 49er fans, what do you think of Singletary getting fired with 1 week to go in the season?
jm2375:
that sucks! but, the win loss record was not what the owners wanted – why don’t they try coaching the team!!!!!!!!
al:
no comment.
Pomai:
don’t UH play 13 games next year? your score card is 12 – 0.
I say 12 – 1 regular season and 13 – 1 after bowl win!!!!!!!!
… 49er faithful …
mebbe Bill Cowwhrrr !!!
or, mebbe Steve ‘Marinouchi’ (is he still around ?)
WAC Champions next year. GO WARRIORS!!
Pomai -if we have 13 games reg season then my guess is 11-3 including the bowl.
2012
Colorado
at Washington
at UNLV
UC Davis
Tulane
and did someone same BYU?
Coach Mack and staff I hope you had a good Christmas! I know it wasn’t the way you wanted to go out, but again we know where we started from and I have been impressed how you kept everyone together. I only hope the best for you in the future. Personally, I think it is silly for people to assume what kind of salary you should be making but I commend you for taking a cut when asked to do so voluntarily. Hopefully, you can double your current salary. I don’t see why not with how we have been improving over these last few years.
away games in the WAC
La Tech
Nevada
Idaho
San Jose State
is BYU an away or home game?
Let’s take a week off first, then get started for our next game.
4 of 6 of our WAC mbb games are on the road to start the season. Utah State, Nevada, NMST and La Tech on the road. Tough way to break into the WAC for coach Gib
Pepsi Na Wahine Classic starts on Tuesday, teams include Columbia, UNLV and Cal State Bakersfield.
#116…turfwar…#127..808chef…#141…rantandrave….good to know there are supporters of the Warriors program out there…2011..we be ok..some good keeds waiting in the wings..they’ll be out there to make their own memories , to borrow a saying from a Tsaiko.
One year it was Lelie, another it was Rivers, then it was Salas. Warriors have proven to be able to reload each year. Getting to be a program others are recognizing.
Moniz…5000 yd season?..Green 1000 yd season?..next year who will it be?
One poster opined that the negativity on the site may have minimal inpact on recruits, not exact words but ..What is “minimal impact”? Loosing one or two of the best? Me, I won’t give anything to rivals to use against me.
Anyhoo, nau pau.
F I U….now that was a great game! Thought Toledo was gonna wrap things up early.
FIU … up and coming program…gotta watch them next year.
4 tough road games…2-2?…maybe…proven..those keeds got some game and don’t count them out.
RIP Chris Gaines. Enjoyed watching him in the late 80s. Such a class act. Agree with ST that Chris deserves to be in the Circle of Honor.
Just woke up from an unexpected nap. 😐
Al — I’m in for the Cattle Call.
Al I’m in the cc unless there is a flash flood warning to keep off the roads.
thank you again for all the bday wishes yesterday!
AL – will be there demanding a recount!
On December 9th, byu finalized their 12 game 2011 schedule by announcing Hawaii as their season ending game on 12/03/11 @ Aloha Stadium… Remember Hawaii could afford a extra ooc game because Boise St is gone.
senior night, uh could be 12-0 and byu will remember how uh spoiled their undefeated 2001 season…50,000 easy
#128,
Washington and Colorado are big challenges?….
Washington went 6-6 with their stud Jake Locker leading the team.
Colorado went 5-7
Not exactly the best and brightest in college football and their conferences.
but we did lose Colorado, and yes they struggled this season and fired their coach. But they had their troubles before we got to Boulder and we all thought Colorado was beatable this season.
So what do you call a team that lost to a team that you view as “not exactly the best and brightest in college football and their conferences.”
Huskies lost to BYU, Nebraska, Arizona State, Arizona, Stanford and Oregon. Compare that to the teams we lost to, those two games next seasons are not “gimmies”, we are in for a dog fight.
I may be at the Cattle Call, but don’t count me so as to not throw off the count. No matter – even if I do show up since I won’t be eating anything anyhow. Just going to show up to see a few “old” faces and to confirm some interesting yet disturbing things.
When did “the public” via the media find out that we’d lost three players?
ralph…you do mean 2011 and not 2012 right?
ahouse…no comment on what?
rest in peace…chris gaines. lots of memories mr. iowa.
i’ll out it this way…we should win no less that 12 games in 2011.
i thought we’d win 9 this year and we exceeded my expectations. however, i thought we’d get the ninth in the hawaii bowl.
it’s just not the same losing the last game of the season four years in a row.
tommui…i’ll defer to my counsel.
Al posted 2011 schedule per UH schedules on its web, BYU isn’t listed but someone posted that they are our last game replacing Boise State
that is correct we do play byu…dec 5th i believe. i think you posted that this was the 2012 schedule but its for 2011.
Nitey niye!
big island player headed to UH to be a Warrior.
G’night!
#181,
Ralph,
I think of that team as my team the Warriors. No more, no less.
Pressure and demands will only go up…we need to perform for the sake of our Sagarin ratings and help our soon to be MWC get its AQ status. =)
Rest in Peace Chris Gains.
my condolences to th Gaines family.
I’m as disappointed as everyone else with the Bowl loss, but will not let it tarnish a very good season. I’m sick and tired of idiots who continue to mouth that “Fire Mack” mantra; I thought that would end with this season, but unfortunately games like the Boise State and Tulsa debacles will perpetuate it, unfortunately. A bright coach said “one snap and clear”…I’m happy with the guys returning and excited about some very good recruits who will help to consolidate and improve the team. Go Warriors!
Happy Birthday Lefty !!!
“Tricky” vocalist, a.k.a. Lakerj32.
Pomai,
I say we do really well next year.
14-0 with no BCS invite!
200
Going to sleep soon, but was just in the blog archives doing some “preservation” of the web pages. Came across this post…
Comment from: al [Visitor]
eh, you guys n gigi, don’t you sleep, don’t you have a life? what you doing up all night waiting to post a blog?
it was nice, real nice to finally put some faces and personalities with bloggers names. that was just great fun. i think the next time we either go potluck em at kapiolani or go to a place more suited for mingling. it was a little too stiff like that.
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The date: 12/29/06 @ 09:54 –the morning after BLOG PARTY 1 at Murphy’s.
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I just started reading the blog again and I’m up to 60, and had to jump ahead.
I watched the replay of the game last night. My single thought is, at this time, we should do home repairs and not raze the building.
and I was watching Coach and Miano walking the sidelines. Lord knows they wanted to win badly, and coach is no quitter.
anyway, back in a few afta I catch up till now.
Stay dry, Kauai. Big rain is here.
Pomai,
10 – 3 TChahng
10 – 3 Season,
11 – 3 With bowl win.
Great Morning All!
Happy Birthday Lefty/lakerj32!
al,
I’m in for the cc but Mrs. d1島 get a few choice words for you! 😯
Short week for some; wet week for all. Be careful out dere!
HiHo….
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying here but it could do with more detail. – They stayed away in droves. – Samuel Goldwyn 1882 – 1974
Re: #183
…wazzup wit dat Doc?! Sounds like an undercover investigation about to go down at the Maple.
Hmmm…Maybe an episode of 5 – 0 about Sports betting in Hawaii. What a cast of characters there would be at such a gathering!
Al ~ Kingpin of the Yakusa.
Pride ~ The Enforcer
Mrs. A-House ~ The ‘Muscle’ (no fut around wit her!)
BHF2 ~ The Legal counsel
TM ~ The ‘Bail Out’ Judge
Slugger ~ The ‘Compliance’ officer
Koakane ~ The underworld language expert
Ok, ok, just kidding!…but W/Doc, you really got my attention now! It sounded so sinister the way you laid it down.
North Shore Fan ~ The Torch
Had to add NSF because of his Flame Throwing capabilities…awesome!
Shoots! I fogit…it’s Aloha Monday.
Good morning Tsaiko Village people!
One snap & Cleared awrredy. I let da ua wash ’em away.
GO WARRIORS!
We seem to have a lot of armchair head coaches here, sooo just for the heck of it lets see how good you really are. So to all of you I invite you to play a little game with me, If you got da ala’s!!!!!!!
I’ll keep track and at the end of next season we’ll be able to see who makes the right calls.
Pomai 13 – 1
ai-eee-soos 8 – 5
LizK 10 – 3
A-House 12 – 1
al 12 – 1
Pcwarrior 14 – 0
Tchahng 10 – 3
Now if BYwhoo is added to make it a 14 game season do we beat them?
Stretch you’ve been talking to coach mack? LOL sorry I couldn’t help myself.
Great morning, Everyone!!!
Condolences to the Gaines ‘ohana!
#141… RantandRave… I agree.
#153… Pomai… I’m far from an armchair coach… just a fan that loves UH to the core. As I’ve said a few times earlier this season, I still believe we’ll go undefeated, but with no BCS Bowl game. I believe in our coaches’ abilities to put the right people in the right positions, and teach all da boyz what they need to succeed. I guess it all depends on how quickly we fill all da big pukas; how well all da new boyz fit in so dat everyone gels and improves from day one.
Stay warm, dry, and safe, everybody!!!
Go, Warriors!!!
And, to add to my #213 above, I thought we had a chance to go undefeated too, with USC and Boise as my biggest worries. I was kind of close, with that additional and unexpected loss @ Colorado. Oh well. It was a fun year!
Mahalo, Warriors!
Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.
Pomai, put dis dow
we going win, going undefeated….
we going get da good recruits…
we going get good coaching…..
cua us fans going prevent amnesia….
we going get 2x 45K crowds.
cuz we going remind da coaches fo no get amnesia.
we going Hawaii bowl early…
an den….. 😯
it all boils down to amnesia prevention technique.
i heard it on bleacher report. 😛
amnesia is correctable.. you keep slapping da head planny times, an no more than a 3 day gap between slapping sessions.
Pavlov’sBHF2 principlePomai: change mine’s to:
8-5 (+Hawaii Bowl, TBA)
(P.S. – It is a 13-game sked, including BYU, who replaces Boise)
http://tiny.cc/t3aa0
If I was a UH football coach, I would be sulking when I was alone in da closet.
and den, I would remember da words of da Hilo fan.
“yes you can. no cry… suck it up… go fight fo Hawaii…
go do mind exercise.”
and remember this, coaches. You need help. no no, not from the players…
from the players and teachers. you got a year to figure out what classes giving the players a hard time.. you got a year to plan what for do on da away game trips. a year.
just like da game. Proper Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance.
I know some of you coaches. I know this about alla you. You got Pride. So, go fight for Hawaii! Fight for your Pride. Fight for your team.
Go Warriors….
Have a gret day, Tsaikos.
esme wooshhhh…….
stay dry today!
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/cpac/flash-rb.html
good thing we’re not in the southern part of that storm.
We seem to have a lot of armchair head coaches here, sooo just for the heck of it lets see how good you really are. So to all of you I invite you to play a little game with me, If you got da ala’s!!!!!!!
I’ll keep track and at the end of next season we’ll be able to see who makes the right calls.
12 – 1 A-House
08 – 5 ai-eee-soos
12 – 1 al
13 – 0 bighilofan2
10 – 3 LizK
13 – 0 Michigan Warrior
13 – 0 Pcwarrior
12 – 1 Pomai
10 – 3 Tchahng
Thanks for the weather picture Chawan Cut. And a belated happy birthday to you.
Getting really cloudy out there, moving in from the south……
Woah some one just turned on the shower, yikes
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This is getting a bit more subjective, but I much prefer the Zune Marketplace. The interface is colorful, has more flair, and some cool features like ‘Mixview’ that let you quickly see related albums, songs, or other users related to what you’re listening to. Clicking on one of those will center on that item, and another set of “neighbors” will come into view, allowing you to navigate around exploring by similar artists, songs, or users. Speaking of users, the Zune “Social” is also great fun, letting you find others with shared tastes and becoming friends with them. You then can listen to a playlist created based on an amalgamation of what all your friends are listening to, which is also enjoyable. Those concerned with privacy will be relieved to know you can prevent the public from seeing your personal listening habits if you so choose.
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