Hawaii men’s basketball: Junior college recruiting issues persist
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The recruitment of junior college standouts was once the go-to, a preferred method of securing talent for the Hawaii men’s basketball program.
Think Bob Nash, Trevor Ruffin, Tony Maroney, A.C. Carter, Michael Kuebler and Matt Lojeski. More recently, Bill Amis, Vander Joaquim, Garrett Nevels and Roderick Bobbitt came out of JUCOs to become productive players.
Recruiting JUCOs often comes with its own set of positives and negatives. JUCO players often offer an immediate infusion of ready-to-play talent, but usually only have two seasons to play, and they sometimes carry red flags in academics or personality — common reasons why players go the JUCO route.
But the junior college pipeline has all but dried up for the Rainbow Warriors these days, at least in terms of meaningful production once they’ve arrived in Manoa. UH has increasingly turned to high school and international players, and the occasional Division I transfer.
On Tuesday, beat writer Stephen Tsai reported that UH’s only junior college offseason pickup, Junior Madut of Eastern Florida State College, will have to delay his enrollment entry to Manoa until January, ostensibly because of an issue with his eligibility clock and the time it took to resolve it.
Not including Jessiya Villa, who was signed a few years ago and went on a church mission, Madut was the first player signed for the 2019-20 class back in April. At 6-foot-5 with a slashing game, he was to be one of the Rainbow Warriors’ most athletic players.
Thanks to a hardship waiver, the lone junior college signee in the 2019 class is still coming, and will have two seasons to play. He might see action in the Big West this spring, but it seems more likely he will redshirt then play two full seasons beyond.
The latter scenario would be a blow for the ‘Bows, who lost their three most experienced players (Jack Purchase, Brocke Stepteau, Sheriff Drammeh) to exhausted eligibility and a couple more to early transfers. UH has been mired in the middle of the pack in the Big West since 2016-17 and could use every tool at its disposal to get out of the muck.
As mentioned above, the whole point of a JUCO pickup is to make an immediate impact.
Fifth-year coach Eran Ganot has had a couple of hits on JUCO players. Gibson Johnson (Salt Lake Community College), now a team graduate manager, was a Big West honorable mention as a junior and a BWC All-Acacemic pick as a senior; he averaged 10.9 points and 4.7 rebounds in two Division I seasons. Eddie Stansberry (San Francisco City College) enters his senior year having contributed to the program’s most prolific season from behind the 3-point arc in 2018-19. Stansberry was third on the team with 11.3 points per game and hit a team-high 77 3-pointers at a 35.8 percent clip.
So, that’s something.
But there have been several whiffs, including Madut for the time being, that have hurt.
They include:
>> Bryce Canda: Ganot’s first signee, out of Central Wyoming Junior College, could not gain admission for the fall semester of 2015-16 after going through UH summer school. He went on to have two productive seasons at Portland State in the Big Sky, averaging double-figure scoring both seasons. As a senior, he had seven 20-point games.
>> Larry Lewis Jr.: Lewis, of Odessa (Texas) Community College, was supposed to bring some athleticism and explosiveness to the perimeter, but much of the time never got off the bench. He averaged 1.8 points in 6.5 minutes in 21 games in his lone season of 2016-17 and wound up finishing his college career at Hawaii Pacific.
>> Jaaron Stallworth: Stallworth, out of Yuba College, came in with a severely injured leg and was behind the curve at point guard. He quit the team prior to playing an official game in 2017-18. Stallworth, tragically, was reported dead in May.
>> Brandon Thomas: Thomas came into the program out of Riverside City College with three years of D-I eligibility. But the younger brother of Mike Thomas never realized a productive role, as his touted shooting ability never materialized. He shot 9-for-43 (20.9 percent) from 3 in two seasons and left the team after last season.
>> Darryl Matthews, Brian Garrett, Trevor LaCount: A grain of salt here because they came in as walk-ons out of JUCOs, but Matthews, Garrett and LaCount were one-and-done scout teamers who did not stick following their first seasons in Manoa.
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The 2019-20 UH basketball roster has gone up. There’s a new addition in Garrett Cason, a 6-6, 200-pound freshman from Fairfield, Calif., and St. Ignatius College Prep. It’s believed Cason is a walk-on.
It’s not just JC guys Brian. Ganot can’t recruit period. I will be surprised if he averages 3000 in the stands this season. In fact 2500 might be a good night. He will be battling to stay out of the cellar again.
😂 on attendance prediction
I really like the roster for this year’s team. Its a combination of players from different paths I could really care less that theres a lack of juco guy. This feels like this is a team that will actually build for the immediate and long haul with the younger guys. And I can’t remember a time when UH actually had this much local talent on scholarship and not just all walk ons. I am intrigued by this team that I actually bought season tickets for the first time ever and I would’ve done it before the schedule was even released.
Yup, me too. I feel this will be a good season for Bows basketball.
Thought that this season would be the breakthrough JUCO recruiting season they’ve been needing. Thought they were going to get Junior Madut and Brayan Au. Au looked like he was going to come, and would’ve had 3 years to play at UH. Instead, we have just Madut, who likely won’t even play until the 2020-21 season. Hoping that the new assistant, Chris Gerlufsen, can fill the void that we’ve had for recruiting over the past so many years.
Also, anyone have their predictions for the starting lineup? I think to start the season it’ll be:
1 – Ahmed Ali
2 – Drew Buggs
3 – Samuta Avea
4 – Zigmars Raimo
5 – Owen Hulland/Dawson Carper
Unless Avea has improved his ball handling, I wonder how Hemsley would look like with some extended run? I think we should be able to finally see Hemsley on the court getting meaningful minutes. As many others have suggested before, I think he is due for a breakout season.
X-factor seems to be whether Hulland can show the potential of being the “stretch-5” that the coaches have been raving about. If Hulland can show flashes of being the next Jankovic, then this team could be in good shape. Excited for the start of the season, Go Bows!!!
UH has been mired in the middle of the Big West pack since joining in 2013, predating Ganot and covering Gib Arnold’s tenure. It also includes two of the vaunted JUCO transfers that the writer mentions in this article (Vander Joaquim, Garrett Nevels).
So it is rather funny that the news is trying to create this story that the lack of a hype JC player inevitably leads to mediocrity.
I didn’t say that a lack of hyped JC players leads to mediocrity. You don’t necessarily need them, but it’s one of just a few recruiting avenues at a coach’s disposal, so it sure helps if you make the most of the ones you bring in. Gib’s teams were in the middle of the Big West (and WAC) for a variety of reasons. Who doubts they’d have been worse off without players like Joaquim and Nevels?
And you can’t just ignore the year they won the Big West under Coach Ganot. You’re not mired or stuck in something if you win the league. Since then — yes.
There are going to be a lot of surprises this season. Just because this team is young doesn’t meat they are inexperienced. A lot of these guys have played overseas, high level AAU (real AAU, not Hawaii AAU), and have played in huge situations. Yes, we all know JC guys come in with two years experience. Some of them have also brought off court shame to the program as well.
I find it so hilarious when I hear people say that Avea and Zigmars now have the ability to be guards. It takes decades of work to become a legitimate guard, a legitimate college player at any position. Just because someone has been working on a 3 point shot, or ball handling for a summer or two, now they feel that they can play the position that it took actual players in that position years to perfect. That may work for mediocracy, but there is no way, that these guys have improved that much to play these positions properly at this level. Avea can explode past his defender sometimes with one dribble, but when he encounters help defense, doesn’t have the ability to recognize and react because that takes years, sometimes decades to perfect. He can’t go left and when he does, it’s either one dribble pass, or one dribble shot. No more. Anyone that has played this sport at a higher level knows that he is a forward, not a guard. The 3/4 guys will be challenged when Madut gets here. Last year it looked like Raimo stuck his hands in butter before every game. Most of his shots were very short stabs or layups. Now, all of a sudden, he’s a three point threat? Don’t we have enough guards that can shoot the three?
How about using that big body to concentrate on rebounding, setting picks, rolling hard, getting your free throw percentage up to 90%, staying in the game defensively by not committing crappy fouls, running the floor hard…..you know, what other nasty big 4 men do when they are dominant, instead of worrying about hitting the 3…..