To-do list
With the new UH head coach not expected to come from the current staff, here is what awaits the successor to Greg McMackin:
• Compiling a staff: AD Jim Donovan has said he wants the new guy to interview each member of the current staff. No promises on hirings, but each will receive an interview. The probable exception is receivers coach Mouse Davis, who is on vacation and expected to retire from the university. The UH assistant coaches have contracts that run through March 31, 2012. Director of player personnel George Lumpkin, director of football operations Bianca Tokumoto and video coordinator Chris Williams (who is on personal leave) are on one-year contracts.
• Recruiting: This is the dead period, meaning coaches are allowed to make one phone call a week to each recruit and no in-person contact with a prospect through Jan. 3. The contact period opens for three days, then there is the quiet period (during which recruits may make recruiting visits). Then there is a dead period, followed by another contact period. UH will honor grayshirts with signed commitments. It will be up to the new coach to decide whether to honor unsigned gray-shirt offers to quarterback Ikaika Woolsey and linebacker Lance Williams. UH will honor offers to cornerback Justin Turner and defensive tackle Sione Lavaka.
• Evaluate the players: Each scholarship is essentially a one-year contract. While it is a new coach’s prerogative to cut players, it is highly unlikely a scholarship will not be renewed without cause. It probably would take a player having numerous unexcused absences from practices to warrant a non-renewal.
first
Secondo!
Banker is our new Head Coach.
Let’s all give him a warm Hawaiian Welcome with open arms and our homegrown support.
Go Warriors!
(via Android)
Tim Green, Walt Klinker, Ulima Afoa, Mickey Pruitt and Semones coached current dline coach Tuioti.
Are there any more comittee interviews, Mr. Tsai? Is this the final list?
Top X!
mornin’
Howzit DPK! 🙂
Wow. I forgot about Tim Green. That’s going deep.
I forget. Who developed the process for this hire?
Unless a staff member gets an emergency interview today, the case, as they say, is ready to go to the jury.
Geez,
I really hope they keep Rolo. It doesn’t sound good for anyone on the staff…
Hey d1!
Tim Green was GA under Wags then VA picked him up made him a position coach.
ST . . . has JD been sitting in on the interviews too?
Hope it’s not Banker – what has he done?
Wow, redzone, you get um. Thanks for all the info.
I don’t know about having a job with a one year contract. Too much stress. It could not be your fault and you still may lose it. I hope the best for all involved.
Each assistant coach is unique and credible.
Unfortunately for them, they will be judged by the work of their leader.
RedZone:
They used to say that about a senator’s six-year term. Too long for a bad one, too short for a good one.
#19
Eloquently stated.
I went to all the VA home games. It was painful but I was there.
With the committee not interviewing current staff who applied, we know now what direction they want to go in…a BRAND SPANKIN’ NEW ONE. We do have some great young guys on staff so hopefully the new coach would keep one or more of them so there is a slight level of continuity. Exciting times! Let’s it going ya’ll!
JD, we are told, was not in the room during interviews. But it is believed he iwas available to answer procedural questions.
let’s hope it’s not Banker for the sake of the program…Not impressed by his body of work as a D-Co…this seems like a case where if he were chosen over someone like Chow then the University is trying to penny pinch picking the guy who would take the least…
I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand that. How can the Athletic Director not have a more direct involvement in the hiring process? After all, if the coach flubs, who will take the blame?
Certainly not the committee.
I did not go to all of vonAppen’s games. I missed one because of my high school reunion. This was during the 0-12 season. Some heckled when I tried to give away football tickets as door prizes.
Question then . . . was JD directly involved in hiring Gib? Or was that all by committee too? People give a lot of credit to JD for his hire.
ST at 2 games I fell asleep in the 3rd quarter. Still I was there.
Completely off topic . . . anyone know when the Steelers have to announce whether Big Ben is playing or not? Or do they? I am both a 49er fan and Steeler fan, and need to ummmm make a decision . . .
The committee sends over its choices of finalists to the AD, who then makes the call.
In many places, there is no search/advisory committee. The AD screens the candidates, makes the choice, then sends it up the ladder.
UH isn’t “many places.”
Good morning, gang!
RedZone:
My wife has friends who are BYU fans. I got them tickets to one of the FvA games against BYU. That was the game in which there was a fight in the stands. They called to thank me … even though they were hit with pepper spray, too.
my opinion is that chow gets the hire, but in a perfect world akina would be hired as associate head coach/defensive coordinator and take over once chow retires. hey, we can dream can’t we? I’d keep miano on as DB coach, tuioti as DL coach. I’d also keep lee as recruiting coordinator, but the writing may be on the wall for the others. glanville is probably out to pasture but NO UH coach inspired more aggressive or harder hitting defense, ever.
Woo Hoo…top 50..Good morning gang!!!
Re: Hiring chain.
One of the ways to explain this is to treat this process like a PTA. After discussions (and arguments), the PTA head says: “Let’s vote on the bake sale. Who would like to make a motion?”
In the coaches search, the AD is the one who has to make the motion.
Laugher of the year: Craig James is running for the U.S. Senate. Maybe he would fit in with some fellow crooks and crybabies.
i wonder which of the candidates wanted at least 1mil?
Yea, tunalvr… #1 Warrior fan on Kauai!
Nobody is getting a million.
Nobody will ever make that amount again.
I’m guessing this will be in the $500,000 to $700,000 range, with incentives. Maybe.
#35 pig, you must be very young to not have seen the years of the Nogas, Levi Stanley, Steve Lehor, the dbs that we had, and on and on.
That would be you LizKauai. #1 Warrior fan on Kauai. No one can touch you on that.
39 –
All of them prolly? Who wouldn’t? 😆
The question is, who had the guts to ask.
i am aware of the no million ceiling. but, a applicant or two was hoping to get what mack had.
my guess is that it may cost around 700k at least. plus – plus.
44…no guts no glory.
you want that prom date you gotta pick up the phone.
700k with incentives sounds good. Show UH the wins, UH shows the money.
my guess is the incentive deal will be something that is used at present and in the future. Who knows? If incentives are right and base pay is set at say, $600,000, a person could make a million plus…but that would require productivity on the field, which is what we all want.
#41, ST, great minds think alike…MWAHAHAHAHA
Sweety’s on the phone with mainland family. Will call you later. Lookin’ forward to it! 🙂
Isn’t there a problem with the budget with offering incentives? I think thats just the way things are run here.
#41, “ever” is a very long time…..
BTW – I forgot that I still had the tux at my house. Thought we returned it.
Okay, maybe I’m caught up in the spirit of the season, but I believe that the list has at least one or more names which can do the job here and do it well.
ST what about Dustin Adams?
I wonder where iwonderwhytheyhateme is? Coincidence?
Why is Dirk Koetter even a “finalist”? As a season ticket-holder, I don’t want Koetter and neither should Manoa. According to this ESPN account [ http://es.pn/uzEGNi ] , Koetter played a major role in reinstating an ASU player accused of rape who was previously expelled by ASU’s chancelllor. ASU police concluded the player *did* commit the assault but Koetter still tried to protect the player and even contacted other schools about offering the perp a scholarship. Koetter’s behavior exposed ASU to legal liabilities that resulted in a “landmark settlement” arising from the victim’s lawsuit. Koetter was also a *named defendant* in the lawsuit and potentially culpable in the destruction of ASU records related to the rape — behavior which could’ve resulted in criminal charges of obstruction. At the very least, the incident depicts VERY questionable judgement by a then-Head Coach with either a perverse or grossly misguided set of priorities and a derelict sense of duty.
RedZone:
No guarantees.
Only the two JC mid-year guys (who will sign Wednesday) and the grayshirts who signed scholarship agreements are guarantees.
Too bad that kid was so committed to Hawaii even after the disaster. He is one of the top olineman in ND.
Sorry to say this guys, the writing is on the wall…no more run and shoot.
as long as we don’t have the hula-t i’ll be happy as long as we move the chains.
Whatever happens, whomever is chosen, my only hope is that everyone remains true.
Because in reviewing UH history, it seems as if everyone hired June Jones, nobody hired Herman Frazier, and staying a week in Vegas was just immaculate reservations.
When Stan Sheriff fired Frank Arnold, he confessed he made a mistake in the original hiring. Gotta love that about Sheriff. He manned up to his mistakes.
There is no expiration date for integrity.
For anyone interested, an ESPN Australia story on Scott Harding. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7361086&fb_source=message
Re: Guarantees
As Beyonce would say: If you liked it, then you shoulda put a ring on it.
Check with Kobe on that one. 😉
Hopefully…….
Head Coach-Banker or Norwood
Retained from current staff…..
Rolo-OC
Tuioti-DL and Recruiting Coordinator
Cal Lee-LB’s and Lead Local Recruiter
We’ll See……..
Re: Blame.
After losses, McMackin would take “full responsibility.”
And that was very noble.
Except that after the UNLV loss, we tried to press him on details of breakdowns.
And he said he had to review the videos, but he was still taking responsibility.
If that were a legal case, the confession would have to be tossed. Can’t accept a guilty plea from someone who can’t correctly allocute. (Guess who watched Law & Order reruns this weekend?)
Bet ya Beyonce had more than 40 applicants.
Got to go. Hope to see big news tonight.
d1:
He got hit with the big one: No pre-nup, kids, and 10-year marriage.
Somebody is going to have to make more commercials.
i could live with four of the final five.
I would still like to make a go at “getting by” with what he has left. 🙄
Good morning Tsaikos!
Happy Monday before Christmas!
from last post – Texas doesn’t recruit in Hawaii because they don’t need to. There’s more than enough good players in the area. Ask PIAA.
Al:
Four of the five want to rent you a room?
The kids at the basketball game on Maui last night were having a blast reminded me of my high school days.
Are the interviewees subject to a non-disclosure agreement?
Not so true here in Hawaii :
Dave Holmes 6 years 46-17-1 with a winning record could have coached elsewhere, ended with Hawaii.
Larry Price 3 years 15-18 with a losing record, he ended coaching career with Hawaii.
Dick Tomey 10 years 63-46-3 with a winning record have coached elsewhere.
Bob Wagner 9 years 58-49-3 with a winning record could have coached elsewhere, ended with Hawaii. (Also note best years of continued home attendance of 41,000 of more during he’s years)
Fred VonAppen 3 years 5-31 losing record, he ended coaching career with Hawaii.
(Note worst losing record of 0-12)
June Jones 9 years 76-41 with a winning record, continues to coached elsewhere.
Greg McMackin 4 years 29-25 with a slight winning record, ended with Hawaii.
If this record holds true for Hawaii, next head coach will have an winning season for the next 9 – 10 year!
Go Warriors! Go Chow!
Is It Chow Time Yet?
Yes, It IS!
st…it did sound that way didn’t it.
i wouldn’t mind banker, akina, chow, or norwood.
I wouldn’t mind living in Barry Bonds’ house. He has 10 bathrooms.
Just saw an interesting piece on Outside the Lines about the Penn St. coaching search. Apparently, Penn St. is not a big payer. Paterno was only making $500,000 with roughly that much in incentives. They were talking about the fact that the current candidates reflected coaches that would not draw a big salary, such as Norwood.
I thought Dave Holmes went on to coach high school football and Von Appen went back to the pros as DC?
#37
ST
This is more like the PTA is selecting the principle.
Rich Miano did not get an interview, if he is not selected by the new HC, and if he he has the aspiration of becoming a HC someday, best to continue on the bigger rock with other NCAA or NFL route to get better exposure and experience coaching position other than DB.
Nick Rolovich to me he is the hottest young OC that needs to get few more notches under his belt. If he is not selected by the new HC, he also needs to expose himself to the world what he has learned so far and he will go a long way to develop into HC someday. And I hope he will return to Hawaii someday and show us how much he has gained to return as Warrior’s Head Coach.
VonAppen was an assistant, not DC, after leaving UH.
Seems like if Norwood were offered, he would actually have a decision to make, considering he would be making relatively similar money. Hmmm . . . a chance to take an exciting team into a new conference or assume the reigns of a team that has tons of tradition and history, but is currently shrouded in a cloud of suspicion and disgust.
kev-1,
Paterno probably made a lot more as a guest speaker and through sponsors such as Nike, etc. In 2009, it was reported that he made 1.03 million +.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4215919
The OTL report also commented that the current Penn St. interim coach was granted an interview because it is just the right thing to do . . . you know, as a courtesy. I’m not a huge Miano fan, but usually the guy you name interim is at least granted that courtesy shot.
mih – not as head coach with-in NCAA Division I program.
87 . . . true about making more through other engagements, but I think the $1.03 mil was his base 500 with over 500 incentives. At least that’s what it sounded like on the show.
I just assumed that Penn St. was a big spender like Florida or Ohio St.
never was a chow fan in the past. i felt he seemed disconnected with the local stuff and he appeared standoff-ish.
but, he keeps coming back with an application in hand. this must be his third time.
i am thinking that he really wants this job and it could be his exit position.
perhaps if he got the job a restaurant like the “golden duck” could run a “monday coach chow fun special” two orders for the price of one at both locations???
al and I hope 3rd time is a charm!
al was no Chow-fan, now maybe turning Chow-fan ready for some Chow-fun?
al – I Don’t care for chow fun.
But willing to eat at every Monday coach talk special.
GO WARRIORS GO WARRIORS GO WARRIORS
Ok, got that out of the system. Miano should get a courtesy interview, because it is the right thing to do…period.
if we could get a base of $500k and place real incentives to get the bump, that is a win win for all involved, IMHO….
have a good blustery monday everyone….and please keep Lyn’s mom Maggie in your prayers, she is still at Queens after having surgery 10 days ago……but GOD is still in control. 🙂
Never trust a Banker
I’ll even eat chow fun at every Warriors game at Aloha Stadium.
I can just see it now a “Chow Fun Special” at every Warriors game at Aloha.
I don’t like when people Koett in front of me in line. Darn Koetters!
I wouldn’t mind a young guy, Norwood I mind that guy from Baylor.
I’m not to Akina to the idea of a Texas guy.
Howzit, everyone!
Getting down to the nitty gritty! Lots of uncertainty, but also lots of excitement already. Can’t wait to see how things develop over the next month or so.
I’m always hungry, so I guess I could use some Chow.
I’m sure Hawaii could get away with paying less if it could secure some big name sponsors to help supplement it’s HC’s pay. Unfortunately, …
they could replace that nasty fried saimin with some chow fun.
Given that the ability to recruit high quality football players is the priority I predict Akina gets hired as there would be now be a pipeline to Texas prospects given the connections that Akina has in that part of the country–a hot spot area of quality athletes where UH has never even had a toe hold on
mih…you mean like outrigger hotels, boh, a big downtown law firm, a real estate mogul, or a part owner of the bengals for example?
Another hawaii recruit gone…
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post?id=3555&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fblog%2fncfrecruiting%2fon-the-trail%2fpost%3fid%3d3555
propect
*prospect
Al,
Yeah, except I don’t think that Football coaches really sell hotel rooms, banks or law firms very well … We don’t have many sponsors that would like to associate the Head Coach of the football program to their products or services, do we?
#107 . . . Cabral gets yet another from Hawaii.
Might be over might be not. People who are not happy with the situation are making calls and twisting arms. Some believe Miano should have been granted an interview others believe Banker was not even in the top three on that list. We shall see.
Sucks to be JD at UH! Your neck will be on the line with this next hire even if you’re not solely responsible for selecting the next football coach! Blame it on the “Gang of Six!” What a mockery this selection process has been. At least these bozos could’ve interviewed Miano out of courtesy! As a Season ticket holder for the last 29 years, I’m canceling my 8 tickets for the upcoming season. Time for some new blood to come in and root for the home team. UH, is one big scam!
So much for our fickle, fair weather fans
Looking back at some posting over the weekend.
Got me thinking, did the current coaching staff under mind winning this year, hoping for a head coach job at UH? I hope not.
For any under staff to be considered for a job as head coach.
You need to come from a winning program.
Like Mac did with June Jones winning program.
Mac just got lucky.
Why did they put three Punahou graduates in the committee? ..Only adds to controversy… especially since we don’t get many Punahou stars on the football team… Maybe they should have spread it around a bit more.
I predict Norwood as next Hawaii HC.
Hawkpeter,
Mahalo for the ESPN story link on Scott! Missed seeing the TV story they were taping for ESPN. Did it play here in the US?
I gave Mac the banner I carried to Sugar Bowl, Thanking the Warriors for a Fantastic Year.
And told him I want to see him next 10 years as a head coach to show players this banner what can be accommplished or I’m coming back to take this banner back.
I wonder if Mac still remebers that?
Wonder where is that Sugar Bowl banner I carried to?
Morning everyone. Was talking to my brother this weekend. He painted miano’s house and worked with him. From what he said he isn’t the easiest person to work with. Maybe theirs something to it. Idk. Idk miano but who knows. I would like to see him get a interview. But who ever it is I’m still a warrior supporter.
Gotta love how all of us have been arguing about the same thing for a week. I think Tsaiko’s should vote for HC and we’d come up with a more vetted coach than this six person comity…
Completely Off Topic,
I’m not sure if this made Hawaii news. This happened to a family friend. I really hope throughout the nation they train all school staffs so this never happens again…
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/fourth-grader-dead-choking-meatball-lunch-bronx-public-school-47-article-1.992778
mih…my point was the big money is on the board.
I was not real excited when June Jones was named head coach. His “body of work” was one that jumped out at me at the time. He had less-than-stellar results at each of his stops. I think at the time, fans were a bit more excited about McBride.
But that soon changed.
Whoever is the new coach, I will give them full support in knowing that he is inheriting some really good players, capable to pulling off some great victories next year. Hard to judge without seeing them in action. In short, we have to give them a chance to succeed.
BIK
Of course Kent Untermman would say that. I’d stick up for my friends too. Seems like a moot point at this stage in the game. Unless he, and all the miano supporters go and “occupy” JDs office and demand a Miano interview! So wot? get chance?
BIK
#117 Is there any other place other than Hawaii where where you went to high school makes such a difference? Kinda sad. But we are Hawaii, we form committees for everything yet get nothing done.
UH should drop down to DII. Athletic program is sinking faster then the Titanic!
#126
Old Boy Network = Punahou Mafia
The committee should be commended for not giving Miano a “courtesy” interview. If he is not truly being considered, they should not waste their time and his time. Seems like Norm Chow is granting UH a “courtesy” interview and he should be eliminated for having this attitude about something so dear to us. I have favored Banker all along, but the fast-track pace has me wondering if Norwood is the front runner. I am not sure Akina would be willing to look at our facilities (compared to Texas) and think this is his dream job. Koetter is looking for a stepping stone and would be gone after a successful season and stay after several miserable ones. 6:5 Banker over Norwood.
122,
Uh no. If that was the case, then Miano would be head coach already. I don’t think so…..
#105 I agree that Akina has the most potential as a recruiter which is crucial if you wish to have success in college football.
morning
if there is no other serious candidates then lets get it done, hc nominee’s in, trust in your decision and and pick. time to rejuvenate the warrior program is at hand. lets get it rolling and start move forward.
How many candidates will JD get to choose from?
so chow is the only senior in that finalist group. he, though, is a young 65.
while norwood is the baby of the bunch at 46.
133…all five if he chose to ignore the committee’s recommendations.
kev-1 nice play on names and funny
So, al, what you are saying is that if Norm Chow gets selected as the HC his offense would be called the “Chow Fun” Sort of like the “Best Show on Turf” for the Rams…”Fun and Gun” at Florida….”Run and Shoot” in Hawaii….MWAHAHAHHAHA
If Banker gets selected, I hope that he can convince Coach Cav to come back and resurrect our O-Line….
Courtesy interview?
Waste time. If I was Miano, I’d rather face up to the straight truths and move on, than to be strung along with something as trivial as a courtesy interview.
On a related note, why does UH “owe” miano so much? Didn’t he make it to the league because of his time at UH? And last I checked, UH paid him a nice sum to coach football. It seems like it is because of UH football that Rich Miano is where he is at today…..not the other way around.
Things like this happens in Big Boy college football. Don’t let your hearts get in the way of business. This is business.
And NO, I am not a Miano hater. I got so much aloha for his story and his accomplishments. But this story just does not add up in the credentials category that is required to be a head coach in Big boy football. Previous posters are right — he needs to get off Oahu and venture on to some other programs. Perhaps be the head coach of a small school, a JUCO, or even a coordinator at some mid major. That is the REAL reason why he is not getting an interview — his resume does not add up. His time at UH certainly does, but that is not a condition that necessarily breeds success. One word: Nash.
Move on. Open your hearts to the new era. Great things await.
BIK
Old Diver
I am one of those making calls.
I feel, as many of my fellow FB Alums, that out of courtesy and respect, Rich Miano should have been selected to be interviewed, not auto-selected to be Head Coach, but to be interviewed.
I might add that many of us
FB alums have questions for the interview committee as to their football game & football program acumen, or, pose those questions to the person who selected the search/interview committee.
Jesse getting Cav back would be a plus
But I doubt Banker can convice Coach Cav to come to old position with less $$…
141,
I even more so hope that he is not able to convince the committee to choose him.
madeinhawaii #117 I don’t think the fact that they were to the same school is really that important. What they contribute to the Community and to UH is.
If what school has contributed the most players to UH, I would suspect that it would be Waianae or Waipahu. The Kahuku players seem to gravitate to BYU/Utah and Kamehameha goes mostly to Colorado
#113, Sayonara, “Sayonara.” Guess since he won’t be interviewed by the committee (made up of mostly business leaders) Miano’s supposed influence in the business community was BS, huh. Or, perhaps he’s really that outclassed by the finalists.
Jim Donovan will have ZERO candidates to choose from.
140, yes, it is the right thing to do. Do I think he will be selected…. no
Respect, integrity and acknowledgement of someone who has bleed green his whole career.
Just hope the committe does not get blinded by a “resume” the way dumbell did with frazier.
Maybe by not having miano hc uh can keep him on board with all the programs he runs. If he become hc and do bad and get fired them he be gone with all that he do. I know they said no coaches are gurantee a job but what they say and do can be 2 different things. Gurantee miano gets kept on board with the new hc.
Infighting, bickering, my candidate is better than yours = Divide and conquer. Exactly what the opponents and anti-UH factions want to see happen.
Need some “Ho’oponopono” when all is said and done.
Maybe Miano will consider coaching another position like outside linebackers with the new HC. Such a move can only help his coaching resume. Nothing personal, and I think Miano has tried his best, but I feel that the defensive secondary would benefit from a new coach.
the jim donovan dilemna….
damned if you and damned if you don’t.
…follow the committee’s selection.
Jim Donovan is putting himself in a corner. He apparently has no real input in the current hiring process. As far as responsibility as you reference above, ST, JD could be the “fall guy” if the new coach does not work out and yet others will certainly be credited if the new coach pays off. Not a good position to be in for JD. I think the interviews of the current assistants would only be because certain committee members would like to save a few of the assistants on the current staff.
maybe miano could be best suited replacing lumpkin.
beautiful day today and christmas is just around the corner.
tommui:
While I agree with you that what’s important is their contributions… I also think it’s best to avoid any smack of controversy in these kinds of matters… Then again if not the “old boy” type innuendos, I suppose someone would probably find some other way to connect “the dots.”
Oh well… life goes on. Main thing we get a coach that can surround himself with some very adroit assistants.
Someone to possibly jump start the UH secondary:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRb1YN7aV4
The process is what it is, at this point why be a cry baby about something that is beyond our control. Some of you guys just whine the $hit out of things, the same point over and over. Everyone has an opinion but give the other bloggers a break, post it once and move on ….
I’m with Kent Untermann and Jesse Sapolu who called in to BC this morning. My wife and I were season ticket holders since we were at UH as students thru the Bob Wagner years. You are talking about from 1965 to around 1995. That’s 30 years. Since UH offered PPV I’ve bought the PPV entire package every year. I’ve been a long time Koa Anuenue booster for years, I’ve been a NaKoa member too for several years. Now, sadly I am neither because we are on fixed income and sadly I am disgusted with how the hiring has gone down or will go down. I think Miano has gotten a rotten deal up to this point. Of the other interviewees
I’m not overly impressed. Everyone of them have had their moments, but also have had failures also. I can’t back anyone of them, and I don’t think Miano is any worse than them. Everybody has something to prove if they are to take us to the next level. If they are not totally sold on Miano, give them a 1 year contract an see what he can do. If he doesn’t prove the team’s performance UH can move on. If he does well, UH can extend his contract. To me, it’s a no lose situation. It’s worth a shot. It won’t cost much. Miano will not grumble because he’s a team player and his heart is here. Don’t disrespect him.
#156, christmas is only less than a week away. wonder what we will find gift wrapped and under the christmas tree????? by the way, u right.
Nevada is bringing some of its band to the Hawaii Bowl thanks to extra seats available on their charter. It appears that the WAC will lose big money on the Hawaii Bowl this year, since the conference covers the cost for the charter. The nice thing is that Nevada will be paying for 25 more hotel rooms. Picking 30 out of 130 band members much have been really controversial…the 100 band members who aren’t getting an all-expense trip to Hawaii must be pretty unhappy.
http://www.rgj.com/article/20111219/SPORTS06/112190304/Hawaii-Bowl-Nevada-football-program-fills-charter-will-bring-band
Nevada sure won’t be selling many tickets…just *10* tickets sold via phone, but 590 tickets distributed via their pass-list (comp) tickets.
While I respect their opinions, I would not expect anything less from a former teammate supporting another. But sometimes even the judgement of friends can be clouded and not be objective.
#152 – That’s exactly the position I feel Miano would excel in should a new coach be hired. I don’t feel any new coach should be obligated to choose any of the existing staff although there are some that might be good to keep.
Honestly, based on the credentials and feedback, this is going to be a very TOUGH call…Alot will depend on the interviews and what each candidate had to offer. I’ve revised my guess that it will be either Akina, Banker, or Norwood. Either of them will do a good job at UH.
Hawaii: Sources close to the process tell us the decision makers are very impressed with Dirk Koetter.
http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop
If he’s the head coach, at least Rich Miano knows of the player’s name and face including correctly pronouncing it.
does anyone know where the secondary ranked in the year’s under miano?
Won’t be able to go to the Hawaii Bowl. Family Christmas party. Any Tsaikos going? Yell for me.
Good luck to JD in picking the right coach.
I hope a decision is made soon so we can move on…No matter who is selected, he will have a BIG Challenge trying to meet our fan’s “inflated” expectations.
Cars cost less, at Koetter!!!!!!
THANK YOU to all of the existing football staff for their contributions to the Warrior football program. Whether you remain or not, your contributions and efforts are appreciated!
Talk about committees –in general– reminded me of a Murphy’s Law that stated “When a committee makes a bad decision, no one is to blame”.
Went looking for it on Google, but found this one instead: “A committee can make a decision that is dumber than any of it’s members”.
🙂
Anyway, if JD has the final choice, I will support his decision.
ST has been relatively quiet this morning. He must be pounding the wire with his big spoon trying to get the scoops.
No commitments from any recruits that were visiting this past weekend. I wonder why?
Either that, or his job prevents him from wasting time on a blog.
i dont think the committee believes MIANO is the right person for the job at this time. They beileve there are better candidates in the pot.
That said…..they may actually be doing MIANO a favor, by NOT interviewing him.
This way, the next head coach, can interview and then HIRE Miano onto his staff. This current situation just doesn’t warrant hiring Miano at this time.
Couple of reasons:
1. Why hire someone from the regime you just retired the head coach from?
2. Which HC candidate would hire to their staff, someone that was also interviewed for the same job you just got? By not interviewing Miano, gives him the best chance of getting onto the next HC’s staff.
3. Why not interview/hire Miano for HC position?….See #1 and #2 above…..
Won’t be able to go to the Hawaii bowl. I have nothing else to do. That sounds more fun.
J/K . . . I am actually pulling for So. Miss.
Bowwar: Agree. Many want a “steak” program on a hamburger budget.
163 – No “Welcome Back Koetter” Arnold Horshack
josh pacheco’s show reporting Miano is going to withdraw his name from the HC job.
Josh Pacheco’s source says Miano to withdraw his application.
I don’t get the handwringing over Rich Miano. Yeah, he’s a Hawaii loyalist. But Miano was also responsible for the WORST performing unit on the team this season next to STs. The Warriors ranked near the bottom among all schools in passing-yardage-allowed [ http://bit.ly/tNAJwL ] and passing-TDs-allowed [ http://bit.ly/tS1qnM ]. In fact, you could reasonably assert that had Miano’s unit performed better, Hawaii might have managed 3-4 more wins (4 losses by 8 points-or-less) for a 9-10 win season. You could also make the case Miano’s retention through 13 seasons and several head coaches is “reward” enough.
rich miano is on the show now…..12:20pm
Miano on with Josh now.
30 for Nevada’s band is a tough decision but probably made easier now that school is out. Some of the band members could be from out of town. I take it that the charter is leaving out of Reno. Getting flights at this time of the year to go to Reno must be very expensive. I bet the members that are on the bubble would be fighting to go to Hawaii. I’ve been to Reno in November and that is the coldest place I’ve ever been to.
miano says he probably wont be interviewed.
but he will support the new head coach whomever it will be.
he’s not pulling his name out of the pot.
Touched by fan support but wasn’t told yes or no if he’s going to be interviewed. Can’t control the direction the AD and Committee wants to take. Miano is not leaving Hawaii.
#183….the last time Nevada played in the bowl game….they RENTED the Hawaii band members to play for them.
MIANO bleed green!
Aloha to him!
Go Bows!
all this chatter the past 2 weeks – good? bad? don’t care?
only relevant ? is are you going to support UH football in 2012 and beyond?
chatter is good.
regardless of who the next HC will be……Support will ALWAYS be there!!
Go Bows!
st, time to get rid of the sock puppets ….
col a house, the steelheads are in and they are biting. wanna go??? place is up north on the frozen island, but river is running.
188…i am with you ahouse as i’ve been since i was 8 years old.
one of these days whitey…one of these days.
haha. that’s the only island the boss would let me go with you.
Can’t wait till spring practice and hear all the reports. How many weeks into spring do we need to figure out what our offense is going to be like?
I’m bringing this up because a friend told me about it just a couple of weeks ago. I heard it a while back but never did know the truth and it didn’t matter at the time. Just sparked and intrest. Did JJ have an affair with a WV player hence his divorce and accident? Person told me that that is part of the reason he is in Texas. Is there any ghosts in any of the current coaches’ closet? This is an island and hard to keep secrets.
A panda walks into a bar and orders a beer and some pupus. After he eats, he gets up, stretches, and then pulls out a gun and shoots two people sitting at the bar. Before leaving, the bartender asks “why did you shoot those people”? The Panda tells him to look in an encyclopedia. The bartender looks up the Panda and he reads “Panda: Large black and white mammal native to China. Eats shoots and leaves.”
BIK
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/12/19/todd.obrien/index.html
I thought as a grad student you didn’t need a release to play somewhere else in Men’s BB. I guess you do.
The Hawaii Bowl has quite a stake in who the next head coach is. I’m guessing that if it rains this xmas eve, this will go down as one of the biggest flops of a bowlgame one could possibly imagine.
BIK
al, tell boss no worry cause i good guy and would neva do anything to get you in trouble. blurp, hic, aaaaaahaaaa. when bite my tongue.
Whoever made the right prediction on the next coach please don’t say I told you so or I knew he was the one. Everyone got a 20% chance of being correct.
My 20% chance is Chow. Why because he will keep 1-3 of the current staff and he will be like Mack retire down the road and most likely a winner. Also another pension check to add to his retirement. The most important question answered is I will not use UH as a stepping stone.
Flip side I have an 80% chance of being wrong.
change is good and change is constant.
Embrace change my fiends.
Bruce Lee said “be water my friends.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USlnfTGlhXc
BIK
Me thinks it’s Chow’s job to refuse. Just a hunch. 🙂
BIK
Banker’s team went 3-9.
Banker’s team BEATEN by Sacramento State (Div 1-AA).
pomai, your astute observation about the 2 old guys sitting in a bar is still one of the top 5 prediction or forecasting. still get sore stomach on that.
I think the Lee brothers and Norm Chow’s friendship goes back to small kid time.
but banker’s still get money. oh, my wrong banker.
The sympathy candidate.. good move, might work.
#176 – Given the circumstance, that’s the kind of coach we need for sure. All I know is…I can make a hamburger taste like or cost as much as a steak dinner. Like our new Coach, we just need an opportunity to.
155 OSD
That was energizing and fastidious video on DB Coaching.
Nice change of pace will be good for UH too.
12 years of same secondary coaching is just too long at one position.
Change of pace from different view will be welcoming to position players.
Stephen: So what you think? An announcement by late this afternoon? The clock is ticking.
That rich miano even applied?????????
if true… interesting.
Did Kamehameha DE Kory Rasmussen ever consider UH? I’m sure that the Kamehameha HC David Stant (former UH D-lineman) is a UH backer. I think the jury is still out on the Colorado program and John Embree. Still, Boulder seems to be an attractive place for many Hawaii HS players (thanks to Brian Cabral).
“We’ve got our guy, you’ll like him.”
Heard bc say they looking at making a decision by the end of the week. Listened to the miano interview. didn’t hear him say he wasnt pulling his name out. All he said was he respects the process. And that he still wants to be the hc and believes he can do the job. But I didn’t hear he say I’m not thinking bout pulling my name out. Unless I missed something.
congratulations to Vander Joaquim for being named WPOW.
Dam line at yb is horrendous.
primo123 well said
I couldn’t have said any better.
BB fans have been awfully quiet this pre-season.
ST — Your 1st and 3rd points on your “to do list” will become critical, given the apparent short list of candidates from which the new coach will be chosen from, and more so, since many want the program to move in a new direction.
As I noted, there are about 50 players on the roster who are freshmen, redshirt freshmen or sophomores – with the offensive players tailored to the RnS. With a change in system, expect a slow migration of players in the next year, unless the new coaching staff finds a place for the returnees fit in. Thus, we begin a 3-year rebuild and transformation. Hope those clamoring for change exhibit patience. We are going to need it.
Don’t forget that JD was a teammate of all of those guys too.
Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles beat Houston 49-28 in Houston, Texas. Southern Miss finished the regular season 11-2. Wonder if
they have a snazzy band?
Friends and Families will support and say the things you want to hear from them. No Less.
You want to hear the voice of outside the block which will make change for improvements.
Change is Good…
we’ll see how quiet the fans will be after bb game against auburn on thursday.
change for the better is good.
#144 Numbah 1
Bet you’re not a season ticket holder. Just a bandwagon blogger! LOL!
#225 ?? What do you mean quiet after Auburn game.
Auburn is going to get Burned!
They are Not BB power house team.
And I see that Long Beach State will burn Xavier too for lost #2. (With 3 players still OUT)
Too bad we could have beat #8 ranked Xavier but instead will face LBS. (Future Big West)
Long Beach State is favorite to take the Big West Title.
Baker’s dozen….13-0 in 2012…..
mikey, i did not say they will be quiet. they either could be quiet or not quiet.
change can make your pocket heavier.
Win or Lose us Warrior fans will never be quiet.
Not in Our House!
Wonder if the KSG Law Firm (B.K.) has a vested interest in who becomes head coach? Make a sizeable donation to the next coaches salary, ala Gib Arnold’s. Hmmmm….bill my clients and extra 15 minutes per phone call. Do the math at $400/billable hrs, call 20 clients per day! Walla, $200K in 100 days! How many lawyers on this search committee?
Actually I should move to the last row, so as not to obstruct the viewing fans.
after a week of reading the blog, contemplating many comments and with no disrespect to Na Koa alumni IMHO JD and others may be thinking of a clean house approach system.
I am not saying it is right or wrong cause we definately needed a fix. Just looking forward to the day when ALL supporters and fan can get excited about warrior fball again.
I want to see Pomai’s observations again. I missed the other one.
not all change is progress, as with all movement is not forward. forgot who said something like that.
mikey, loud and proud, no need move.
Just one lawyer, Kobayashi.
195
That rumor goes back years ago and started on the internet.
A private investigator, hired by the someone close to the VB Player and her family, traced the rumor to an anti-football professor at UH. The professor said he heard the rumor from someone, but he admitted he did not have any evidence of such a claim. The professor said he just wanted the media to do an investigation. He never agreed to back off, but he did stop and deleted posts where he could.
The VB player is married and according to those close to her, had her first child a few years ago with her husband.
The last time UH cleaned house was in 2002.
lol, with some of the opinions and reasoning here, glad that it is not left to our fans to make the decision …. Yikes!!!
slugger #166 bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
It was always difficult to judge the AD because he inherited coaches and administrators.
This is the end of the fourth year. By the end of this week, he will have hired three of the coaches of profitable programs (football, men’s basketball and men’s volleyball).
His tenure can be judged starting next week.
akina. nope. chow. hell no. miano. yes. lee. hell yes.
“I am the law!”
JD…………………………………………………………………………………………..Judge Dredd
1 hour on line so far. Only moved 6 cars length. Blah.
Ingesting……..
Donovan should go too because he is responsible for Mac. Clean slate I say.
Derek, Pomai’s observation is Kim Jong Un and iwonderwhytheyhateme are twins.
REPOST and adding some thoughts:
i dont think the search committee believes MIANO is the right person for the job at this time. They believe there are better candidates in the pot.
That said…..they may actually be doing MIANO a favor, by NOT interviewing him.
This way, the next head coach, can interview and then HIRE Miano onto his staff.
The current situation just doesn’t warrant hiring Miano at this time.(he’s part of the staff that just got their HC, retired)(The perception of CHANGE needs to occur to bring the FANS back to the stadium)(We don’t want STATUS QUO)
Couple of THOUGHTS:
1. Why hire someone from the regime you just “retired” the head coach from?
2. Which HC candidate would hire to their staff, someone that was also interviewed for the same job you just got?
By not interviewing Miano, gives him the best chance of getting onto the next HC’s staff.
3. Why NOT interview/hire Miano for HC position?….See #1 and #2 above..
Replay if miano now.
#248 nah….JD is doing a good job….he manned up and DID THE RIGHT thing with MAC. The worst thing would’ve been to keep MAC around. That would’ve been way worse.
#243
ST
Are you saying it’s JD’s call? Or is the committee doing the hiring of the coach?
Still Didn’t hear him say he not withdrawing his name. I do think he will be on the next hc staff.
whitey:
no can – still sick!
JD didn’t hire Mack, he wasn’t even the AD when Mack was hired.
primo123, Hillary Clinton was running against Obama for the democratic presidential nomination back in 2007. though things did not work out for her, Obama saw her strengths and made her secretary of state.
just sayin.
#248 I.M. Accomentator – what we need are commentators that know facts before they speak.
MacMackin was hired in January 2008.
Jim Donovan became AD in March 2008
#233 Good point. There are 3 “Bert Kobayashis” involved with UH athletics. Bert T. Kobayashi, an attorney, attended UH but received his BA from Gettysburg & JD from Hastings. He’s a big mover (obviously, sitting on the selection cmte) in Hawaii athletics & reportedly negotiated McMackin’s contract. Bert A. Kobayashi Sr. & his son, Bert A. Kobayashi Jr., are noted businessmen who are also key players in Koa Anuenue. Bert A Sr & Bert A Jr are *not* related to Bert T. I get confused just thinking about it. Ferd Lewis does a better job here -> [ http://bit.ly/utGltT ]
#248, I don’t think that JD was responsible for hiring Coach Mac.
#257 politics….jus politics….obama needs clinton MORE than clinton needs obama…..
my BEST GUESS…..the next coach will be a PUNAHOU guy…………jus guessin…..
Neal Sedaka still got the mojo… looking forward to the next KKall!
#239 – wonder if it’s the same person that sent an unsigned letter alleging unnamed people were point shaving.
same difference, when it’s all said and done there are those who are going to say the hiring of the new hc was just politics.
for couch potatoes like me. i just wait for the new hc and look forward to another season of WARRIOR FOOTBALL!
Is that why we hear the name, “Bert Kobayashi,” all the time? There are three of them? Whoa… All three are pretty successful, eh? Parents to be.. name your kids Bert.. and give them “Kobayashi” or “little forest” (Forest Little)as a middle name!.
#266….There was also a Bert Kobayashi who was a State Senator for a while….no relation to the other Bert Kobayashis….
LOL
me too COUCH…..go BOWS!
#267 And Bert T. Sr. too (1916-2005), father to Bert T. Jr (KSG) and a former Hawaii Supreme Court judge.
looks like bert is a common japanese name. just like glenn, eric, randy, jay, wayne.
I remeber seeing Bert Kobayashi name on every Frank Fasi ‘Shaka’ City Projects Development Signs all over Honlulu.
mikey!
DAS why da name is so familiar to me too! …
And at every years end their sons use to blast Tons of fireworks at New Year Eve…
Boxes after Boxes of Duck Brand went up in the air…
Or was that the Sheet Metal Kobayashi’s…
And all the “little forests” around makua, makaha, etc would go up in flames, eh?
kobayashi and fasi…..like maple syrup and pancakes…..
(If Japanese)You could name your son Mits Funai.
Incidentally there is another Bert Kobayashi, not the attorney, who was/is with the Clarence Ching Foundation.
I see that Rich Miano who was recruiting for Austin Lee a 3 *** DB from Sandy, UT got out flanked by Utah coach Kalani Sitake.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=1504&sport=1&year=2012
“Houston: We hear that Boise State offensive coordinator Brent Pease interviewed this morning for the job.”
From:
http://www.footballscoop.com/the-scoop
Very interesting.
tommui, or name your daughter faith.
Excellent post. This was a truly fascinating post. I wish to discover more very soon.
#276 PRIMO – I think that Kobayashi was connected to the Albert Kobayashi Construction people. B.J. Kobayashi (first name Bert) is law-trained but is with the above contractor company
Surprise that Rivals.com erased all of Mac Football Resume History.
saying “This coach Year does not exist”.
Mac has been offically been retired by Rivals.com?
It’s about the process……………….
When choosing to fill a position which is on the public dime it’s all about the process. While we might complain about the President, Senator, Governor etc. we respect the office because we trust in the process in which they were chosen. We understand the process of majority rules and each person has one vote. In the case of the selection of the head coach, the process has been hidden behind closed doors. We the public are not privy to the criteria the selection committee is using. We don’t know how the selection committee was formed and who selected them. It is hard for me to believe Jim Donovan selected the members and gave them the sole responsibility to make the selection since it’s his butt on the line. If not for the prying media we would have no idea who was interviewed. We still don’t know who applied. The new head coach will be tainted by a process which we the public do not trust. That is not fair to him.
The decision will be made, the healing will start. If you do not want your seasson tickets someone else will…..kids make choices, not a reflection on anyone it is what they do. A professional coaching staff goes out and gets student athletes and coachs them up. This is too much angst and too much stonethrowing…..change is good and in this case will work out for the better…..there will be regret for words and actions in time go Warriors!
The decision will be made, the healing will start. If you do not want your seasson tickets someone else will…..kids make choices, not a reflection on anyone it is what they do. A professional coaching staff goes out and gets student athletes and coachs them up. This is too much angst and too much stonethrowing…..change is good and in this case will work out for the better…..there will be regret for words and actions in time go Warriors!
good golley…the coach hired may want to coach his
bowl team first and thus keep everything hush-hush
for now.
tommui my bad you’re correct it was Albert C. Kobayashi Construction that had the job with the City of Fasi.
http://www.biahawaii.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=400
So many Koba’s too little time.
ST mentions one-year contracts for student-athletes, but if the NCAA approves multi-year scholarship then what? Miss a practice? Sorry but I signed a multi-year agreement!
By the way, kids commit and decommit all the time…..the signing day is all that counts
Oregon State’s Banker: “To the dismay of some people … I’m far from going anywhere right now”
Banker after returning back to Corvallis.. guess he’s not too well liked at OSU. how he made the cut is beyond me..
But Alberts’s oldest son Bert took over and joined the compnay followed by his second son James and finally Ron Kobayashi.
guess we’re down to 4 candidates
Jalen Boyd recuited by Rolo commited to Air Force on December 14, 2011
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/list;_ylt=Ak1uSsfALs8F8rHK3ge8thVHPZB4?prospect_ids=124350
Takeru Kobayashi, born in Nagano, Japan, ate 50 hot dogs in 12 minutes at the Nathan’s Coney Island hot dog-eating contest in July 4, 2001 , doubling the previous record of 25. The record was so unexpected that when Kobayashi got to the later numbers, the organizers ran out of signs indicating how many dogs Kobayashi had eaten and had to resort to handwritten signs. Kobayashi would go on to break his own record three times in winning the contest six consecutive times (2001–2006).
The past weekend, UH brought in three recruits — a JC d-lineman, and a prep offensive lineman and DB.
But Warriors have been told not to make offers to high school prospects, and JC guy doesn’t want to commit until next coach is hired.
Therein lies the dilemma.
recruits droppin like flys now………….
“Good day Mr. (new head coach), your mission should you accept it, is to beat USC in the first game on the road, beat BYU on the road, beat Boise St. and win the MWC in your first year. If you and your associates fail we will disavow of your hiring. This message will disintegrate in 5 seconds.”
all we want for christmas is a new football coach
Huh??? No announcement on a coach yet???
Maybe we need to get Kim Jong Un….errrrr, I mean, IWWTHM involved in the process…MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Just to let you know that Bert Kobayashi (formal name Bertrand) was a member of the State House from 1979 through 1982 and the State Senate from 1983 through 1994.
Will wrap up a project in the next ten minutes before heading on up to The Stan for the two women’s basketball games tonight. Saw several Tsai-kos at last night’s games.
SLUGGER: Yes, we’ll be at the Sheraton Hawai`i Bowl and the Diamond Head Classic as well. Assuming the weather is decent, we’ll be taking our annual hike along the base of Na Ko`olau from Makapu`u to Kane`ohe next Monday. Maybe I should say towards Kane`ohe – getter old(er) has slowed us down somewhat.
Maybe the coach is already chosen but needs to work out the terms of the contract. So Banker is out?
ST,
wasnt the DB a JC out of Santa Monica?
Marvelous blog post. Highly fascinating and well penned post. I look forward to uncover even more in future.
What does Kobayashi know about football?
If you win plenny games, you make plenny money
d1 #306 makes plenty cents lol
power outage in San Francisco?
If it’s Norwood, hope he can bring Randy Clements (also from Baylor) with him. Clements is the co-offensive coordinator in charge of the OLine. Baylor really improved their run game when he came aboard.
#305 Derek – if you mean Bert Jr. – the one that is on the Committee – he is one of the officer in Na Koa, a big donor to the UH and its football team, does a lot of charity work, knows a lot of people and probably hits them for contribution to the UH athletic programs.
He probably knows more about football programs, organizations, and the football game – probably more than a lot of people on this blog.
Banker out? Maybe the other 4 will ride off into the sunset! In comes Miano….The Holy Grail!!!!!
#310 Bert T. Jr, the atty and selection cmte mbr, isn’t (currently) listed at Na Koa as an officer or director [ http://bit.ly/vDh5IH ]. Agree re football cred as former player, major booster & Manoa mover.
#301 WassupDoc/Capitolist
reminds me of a story when Ah Sook Wong was killed in a Tong war in San Francisco. They were really after Ah So Wong. And they sent an apology to the widow “So sorry, wrong Wong, slip of Tong”.
Senator Bertrand Kobayashi is not the Bert Kobayashi of the selection Committee or the Bert Kobayashi of the Board of Regents or the Bert (B.J) Kobayashi of construction fame or the Bert Kobayashi who was a Supreme Court Judge, father of Bert Kobayashi of the selection committee.
Clippers-Lakers tonite on tv
#312 Puamamane – correct – my fault. I meant Koa Anuenue director
more rumor …
Chris Tanaka says rumor is front-runner is Koetter.
Duane Shimogawa posted on Twitter: “Report: Dirk Koetter next Hawaii head coach.”
3 Punahou people on the selection committee; is the enrollment at UH 50% from that school. Let’s see the numbers.
Okay Tsaikos…may the best man win. Last of the kids arrive tonight.
We start Hannukah and Christmas tonight. G-d bless you all and may you all be blessed with good health and a sweet year. May the light shine bright for all of you. SHALOHA.
TD! NINERS!
All this stuff about Punahou – I don’t know if it is Punahou-envy or some troll trying to get a rise out of people. If the people on the committee are able citizens, I don’t care whether they graduated from Punahou or Timbuktu.
If we are going to make enrollment at UH the criteria, then we should have a Japanese HC. Or if it Chinese, a Chinese coach. If the majority of our enrollment comes from Waipahu, then a graduate of Waipahu or if the percentage of enrollment is female, then a female coach.
If you want to argue that Norm Chow or Duane Akina are absolutely unqualified, it isn’t because they went to Punahou. If you want to argue that the best person to be the coach is Norwood, then why should we have him as coach if the enrollment at UH doesn’t have enough African-Americans.
Dirk Koetter a leading candidate. Many happy Jaguar fans!
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/429812/tania-ganguli/2011-12-19/jaguars-offensive-coordinator-dirk-koetter-reportedly
Actually comments are somewhat split with unhappy Jag fans and those who say his hands were tied by: 1) the HC’s “70’s style” game-planning; and 2) no talent beyond MJD
…and some ambivalence
No one can help us anymore…
We type and scribble out prospective names over and over again..
for now… prophet-less.
do you understand?
http://youtu.be/LBonwAcDwmc
Go stand in the corner and sulk while your guesses are thrown to the floor.
no more help.
http://youtu.be/LBonwAcDwmc
2012 is anew…
https://twitter.com/DShimogawa
says the next HC is Coitus.. erm.. uh.. sorry… Koetter.. (1 hour ago)
Who is Duane Shimogawa?
or rather.. how reliable are his sources?
if you get tweetah, you can read his description
305. You are absolutely right.
Koetter??? I can’t imagine what the Committee sees in this candidate. His body of work is not impressive at all. The thing I remember about him is that UH “killed” his team in a Bowl game. The Warriors clearly outcoached, outplayed, outeverythinged his Sun Devils & we might pick him as our HC? I’ve also seen the Jaguars play in person and their offense is hell. I hope JD has the last say and can put some sense in the final selection.
If this rumor is true about Koetter being the next HC then I relinquish my season tickets.
1)I will not support someone who can look the other way when their star players are involved in illegal activities.
2)I will not support a coach who was average at best being a head coach.
3)I will stick around to witness a “watch the grass grow type of offense being installed…
I would be very dissapointed if this does happen…more dissapointed that he would be hired without a true face to face interview…Skype is one thing but seeing someone’s mannerism in person is a complete different story…
Who da H-E-double hockey sticks is Duane Shimogawa?
BIK
oh ok, covers energy, real estate, and economic development for Pacific Business News.
Tsai, you let a PBN guy beat you to this scoop???? 🙂
BIK
Still gotta believe it’s Norm Chow’s to refuse.
BIK
332. Don’t let the door hit your you know what on the way out.
Really, Welcome back Koetter? – That’s Horshak!
Why the sad faces? The Niners are gonna win!
Was Koetter fired in November of 2006?
Or did he continue on to the Hawaii Bowl only to get worked by Colt Brennan and J-Riv like a part-time job?
Koetter finished up in the Hawaii Bowl
…which is more than you can say for….nvm
The same people telling those losing faith in Coach Mack’s ability to lead the Warriors, OUR program, to just shut up and “support the kids/players” are the same ones claiming to relinquish tickets due to again.. ONE MAN.
Yes, a man tasked to to lead our program, but a man nonetheless.
Life is funny sometimes…
K State arrives Tuesday night via Hawaiian Airlines. Hopefully all of the Diamond Head Classic teams utilize Hawaiian Air, a Diamond Corporate Partner in UH athletics.
K State will play S. Illinois Salukis at 11:30 am on Thursday at the SSC to an empty house. In the last 2 weeks they played at 2 neutral sites, INSIGHT Coliseum in Wichita against West Virginia before 15K fans and a week later at the SPRINT CENTER in Kansas City before 17K rabid fans defeating #20 Alabama.
I hope the Diamond Head Classic can help kick start the UH season with more than 4K fans that have attended the previous pre season games.
Now I can say it, but out of the finalists… I wanted Norwood.
But oh well…
We have SPAM at 343.
And the same guy who sat and talked with Mack before the season is the same by who called him an idiot…but of course not to his face
😆
…sorry Ralph, but that was funny
the 49’ers are nearly the same team in personnel they were last season with Smith at Qb except with a coaching change they are now 12-3.
diehard 49’er fans must be in a state of shock, not a word from A House and Whitey. Wake up, it’s not a dream.
Bryson,
What am I gonna do. Go out of my way, away from my job to find the various hours a HC, ANY HC keeps at lower campus?
BUT if you are just trying to call me a fag, we can do this another way.
Ralph,
Two words: Home field
WooHoo!
Relax folks, there’s a reason Mr. Shimogawa is no longer a sports reporter. Some of it is even related to his reporting! 😈
Denver up on Na Wahine 22-11 with 11 minutes in the first half.
Calm down, folks. Nothing decided. It’s gonna get controversial.
How come Denver is in home white?
Co-HC’s?
😯
no spam, snacking on pipikaula while watching the niners. Eh, at least I mentioned the Diamond Head Classic and Hawaiian Air. 🙂
Just when some of us were adjusting to a potential HC, ST throws in a wrench. Arghhh….
350: You spent a lot of time on campus didn’t you? I’m sure you must have run into Mack at least once or twice after you made that comment…point is if your gonna call someone out on something they said then be ready to be called out on your own words…as for this going any further that’s completely up to you…no one called you a fag but if that’swhat you feel just happened then oh well…
Deadlocked? Miano wins? No need interview, already HC
I’m just not a supporter of jumping out of 1 frying pan into another and to me that’s what the hiring of Koetter would be…Right now he doesn’t know if he’ll be employed next season so he’s trying to secure a job which I understand …but 1 of 2 things will happen if he is successful he won’t be here long… If he isn’t then the repercussion could have a long lasting effect on this program…
ST,
What do you mean by controversial?
Don’t really care about the Punahou or Kamehameha people on the committee. My only question is, how in the world did that Roosevelt guy get in there? Those Roosevelt folks, man, you gotta keep your eye on ’em!
Fly on wall heard claims Miano no mo intahhview because neva filled out da paypah fo apply!!!!
Adolpho helping Jackson in the paint, she has 6 boards and 1 BS and Jackson with 6 rebounds of her own.
Manoa Mist: Agree with you. Gotta counter the Roosevelt person with someone from Kaimuki or McKinley :-). BTW, Elvis just seen exiting Mac 24-7 in Waikiki.
I can understand why some might want to give up their season tickets if Koetter is chosen and I can also understand why some believe they are fair weather fans. Just to be clear I’ll be going to the games next year and will continue my Na Koa membership. When I look on the stands I see them filled with middle age to older fans. These people make up the base who support the program financially and by attending games. This demographic will be the ones who are offended by the type of program Koetter ran at ASU. You can call them whatever you want but they keep the program going. The big money players are important but if you lose your base you lose your program. I hope the committee keeps this in mind.
Not sure about these Punahou alumni….if they couldn’t get into St. Louis and had to go to Punahou can we trust their judgment?
Sorry for the poor grammar, tough typing on a smart phone.
Koetter’s overall record at Arizona is about the same as Mack’s was at 40-34, but his in conference record is terrible at 21-28. Yes, he was in a tougher conference, but he also had higher rated players at his disposal… in other words….parity. If he really is the next head coach, one has to wonder if it was selection by lowest bid.
#370
MIH
Koetter had way more money to work with, a lower administions standard and no institutional control. That is a winning formula at most schools. Maybe the committee will be working to lower entrance requirements and those cumbersome institutional controls.
YO-Committee and applicants:Think & do like Justin’s song…”you can take da boy from da island but not da island from da boy.” Make a Hawaii coaching dream team!!! 65 yr Chow HC, cuz last chance by age. Rolo OC. R & S with pro-style. Akina DC. Keep Cal, Miano, Tuioti, and Tomey(recruiting). Bring in some other hawaii ties to finish off the staff. You all want to come home only as HC. Well time to just come home and put the “OH(yeah)” back into “Ohana”. Lets see how good you can make us together. Nuff making the mainland happy. Return the Love & respect back to the island.Lets make Hawaii big time. Time to give back.
363 – Post of the day! LMAO!
#363
Eh, I wen Roosevelt to! Us guys smart. We no how. You like someting you just grab um.
Did ya see that, huh Mr. Tsai? Did ya see 363?! Waddya think ‘o that?! 😆
While Dirk Koetter might be the leading HC candidate….probably because he’s the only finalist with college head coaching experience, no obvious local ties….or even contacts with the local HS coaches for recruiting purposes….since Dirk never actively recruited any local kids while he was at Boise State or at Arizona State.
If Dirk is indeed the next HC, JMHO that his assistant coaching staff will need to have some good contacts with the local HS coaching community…..to fill the biggest recruiting need area (Oline)….especially with alot of good local HS Class of 2012 Oline prospects….in order to build some depth.
354 –
Yah its gonna get controversial because you make a controversial post like that and we don’t even know what controversy. What controversy?! Where?!
Ya know if ya get scooped by Shimogawa… 😆 …oh nevermind.
Hire the guy that can:
1) Score points with some version of a spread offense and do so without 4 5 star level QB’s
2) Get the defense to fly around and hut people
3) Improve the special teams that were an embarrassment
I’m really warming to the fiery, energetic Akina after 4 years of the jovial grandpa. Hire Akina, keep Rolo
now we got to ask tommui which bert kobayashi is it that really graduated from roosevelt.
i like it so much
i don’t see the guy with the least ties to hawaii being our new coach.
i just don’t.
I’m guessing by the posts here that there must have been at least one.
DIRK KOETTER= HOODLUM UNIVERSITY , THUGS INC. SORRY NO KOETTER WANTED HERE.
The two leaders in the super scientific HA poll are both Punahou guys.
dpk…subliminal messages all about. you missed a ton of them.
bum bye you learn.
384….and lo and behold the dirty laundry will start appearing.
Still have a strong feeling that the next HC will be a Punahou grad. Just a gut feeling.
Gotta make sure that the wife and family are happy here. Nothing more distracting than an unhappy spouse and kids.
So if it is a former Punahou grad, you saying we get chance for the guys that was going away for stay here?
Just kidding….not a chance. They’re out of here!
old school dave…2 out of five candidates from punahou. umm.
http://www.statecollege.com/news/columns/penn-state-football-coaching-search-norwoods-aloha-may-be-latest-snub-as-the-list-of-nos-grows-965832/
It’s no secret I want Rich Miano as head coach, but there are two guys on that list that Miano has a lot of respect for and feels they will make great head coaches.
Norm Chow-HC
Duane Akina-DC
Rolo-OC
Any of this a possibility?
$57M profit?!?!
#394
Akina makes twice what Aranda was making here. The salary of the assistants is really more of an issue that the pay of the head coach. This might be the main reason there were a lack of big name applicants. Don’t expect the next HC to bring in big name assistants.
Adolpho becoming a force, 14 pts, 15 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1 BS. Add that to Jackson’s 20 points and 10 rebounds, the Na Wahine got a force in the paint. but their 20 TO is a constant problem.
Possibility?
Leave the most financially successful program in the nation to take a drop in position for less than half the pay from a school who has annual department shortfalls to live in a more expensive place where you wouldn’t be able to afford a home? Sounds good but
…how come you hate the guy so much?
How you know I not making my own sublimininininal messageseses to myself? You ever tot of dat?! 😆
Besides, no matta what I say. Bumbye you learn.
Go Chow Now
Bert Jr. is a public school grad – he went to Roosevelt; I agree totally with d Tommui’s comments. To add, he also was a military interrogator. I was opposing counsel in a case with Bert; he’s tough, smart, and fair. He’s a heavy hitter with a lot of life experiences. it’s good that he’s sitting on the advisory committee.
Assistants, if they’re capable up and comers, usually spend maybe 2-3 seasons at one school, then will receive an offer to move on. Dick Tomey had a number of very good young assistants like that. That’s the nature of the beast. I read about some Utah fans complaining about the fact that many of their coordinators and assistants have made a name for themselves and moved on to greener pastures at other schools.
394. Only if
You all asked for it & you have to live with what you get…Mack wasn’t that bad after all.
No Miano…….I’ll take Akina. He wants it and has family here. I have an issue with a coach with no local ties as it usually does not work out with CEO’s that transfer here to run local business’s either.
I remember back in the day when UH BOR and attorney Wally Fujiyama was kicking up a storm. Read about him in Cayetano’s book. Former police office who became a high powered attorney. He was a straight shooter that rubbed some the wrong way.
Not too hard to find “greener” than a desert
Hmmm…. looking at who Donovan hired, he has been selecting younger coaches. Wade and Arnold were also known recruiters. If these are some of his criteria, Norwood would definitely shoot towards the top of his own list.
OK, Ralph!
Watched the game and just absorbing all the goodness that is the 49ers in 2011!
Too bad they will not play Oakland if the regular season – woop their arses!!
sorry – “if” s/b be “in”
It could very well be that the head coach named would not have been the top choice. The top person (s) could very well refuse the offer.
Very well.
BIK
A House but the niners will be one year wonders like the little bugga in the governor’s mansion.
The Star-Advertiser home page has a Coach’s Poll in the same section as the “breaking News”. it lists 5 candidates to vote for…
I haven’t seen the results so far because I have not voted. But as with all polls, the more people voting, the greater the reliability (for people who are online, anyway). 🙂
The two Punahou guys had the lead, SteveM. Why haven’t you voted? What are you, some kinda commie?
Awww, Kid, I don’t have a preference in that batch. 🙂
…and I did say I’ll support whoever JD chooses.
Taking a look at the poll results so far, it’s apparent that the public has their opinion but it doesn’t KNOW what’s going on.
To be honest, besides ST, does anyone know what really is going on…
Body of work is just one of the things they will look at. To be fair, Koetter knows his stuff when it comes to a passing offense. He played quarterback so he is sort of like June Jones in that regards. If you look when UH hired Jones, his body of work at the time was not impressive either. His only head coaching stint at that point was in the NFL where he had a losing record. From the time of his college playing career, he was a constant mover, never in any one place for a long time. So when Jones was announced as UH head coach, I was skeptical. But he stayed for awhile and put the program on the map.
As to why Koetter couldn’t produce during his time at Arizona State, only he can answer that. Same goes for the things that went down during his watch. Talking to Boise fans, they liked Koetter because he was a personable guy. Leads me to believe part of the problem is ASU with its party reputation. Plus wasn’t our former AD from there?
He isn’t my top guy because of those problems. Brings too much questions as far as his decisions go. I know the pressure from boosters and the administration to win is great but you have to make certain calls that go beyond those things.
Try ask Duane Shimogawa about the time he took a dump in my friends bathtub. True story. I could never look at him the same again.
Singletary wants to be UH HC only if Sapolu is Oline coach.
Nah just kidding
Two words why the committee probably never gave a current UH assistant a second thought about the HC job: Bob Nash
Come on make a decision already!
I’m sorry, but I have to say this . . . I keep looking at Banker’s photo that they show in the media. The guy looks like a complete pr___k. Really, is that the only photo of that guy?
Is that punt returner/kicker?
Chris Tanaka of Channel 9 just confirmed that the Tweet that came out this afternoon regarding Dirk Koetter is not true.
for what its worth…
from staradvertiser.com moments ago
The UH football-coach search committee has interviewed the following candidates — which one should be the next head coach?
Duane Akina (57%, 3,117 Votes)
Norm Chow (32%, 1,760 Votes)
Brian Norwood (6%, 317 Votes)
Dirk Koetter (4%, 195 Votes)
Mark Banker (1%, 89 Votes)
Total Voters: 5,478
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Whoever becomes HC, hopefully he brings in a few top recruits with him cause we losing precious recruiting time
Any chance of that would probably come from the first two candidates on BA Lurker’s list
Kanoa said “the favorites” are Chow and Koetter.
The taciturn one tells no tales.
Maybe they saving the Announcement for the Hawaii Bowl halftime show. 600 hula dancers and out come Norm Chow in a grass skirt. Yay!!! Dang I better get my tickets.
hapahaoleboy:
December 19th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Two words why the committee probably never gave a current UH assistant a second thought about the HC job: Bob Nash
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Or because that person never really applied. According to something someone said on a certain committee
Something is stirring . . . what gives?
Okay, serious kine. I am leaving tomorrow morning for a week in the mountains. No wireless where I am staying. This sucks. I am going to miss out on all the action. WTH!!!!!!!!
Favorites by whom…the committee. The fan poll says different.
Relax…get the bottle opener and have yourself a winterbrew.
Anyway good night! Sweet dreams of coaches we can’t have. Aloha
the committee should be the fans who go every game. without us dont have a team.
Did a lot of reading today, and some soul searching regarding the current state of football at the University of Hawaii.
With all the names that have been made public over the past few days, I took some time to read up on all five candidates that were interviewed over the weekend.
To me, there’s two candidates I just don’t get.
Banker and Koetter. Now I understand they both come from brand name programs collegeiately, and Koetter, in fact, is currently OC for the NFL’s Jaguars, but…….
I’m finding it hard to get excited about two prospects from organizations that are in major slumps right now.
Oregon State went 3-9 in 2011 and the Beavers were ranked #83 in the country in total defense.
Jacksonville’s offense right now is anemic, horrible even, ranked dead last in the NFL. Dang, in there last game they threw for 91 yards.
Again I ask, “Why is anybody excited about such possibilities?”
With that said, Duane Akina, since his original departure from the 808 after five years under Bob Wagner, I’m yet to figure out where the Hawaii part of him stood. Not many recruits with local ties in his 14 seasons at Arizona, not ONE to my finding did he ever pull into Texas in his 11 years.
Those three, in my opinion, is my hope, are out.
That leaves Brian Norwood and Norm Chow. Both, I think, we can call true candidates with Hawaii ties.
Chow, in his 40+ years of coaching and a resume that’s second to none, has always recruited Hawaii. And back to his resume….WOW! Part of three National Championships and mentor to 4 Heisman Trophy winners. Not to mention guys like Jim McMachon and Hall of Famer Steve Young. Again, WOW!
Norwood, can’t find anything negative about the guy. Nothing.
Family, God, Team, Family….Any way you mix or match it, it comes out winner.
Not worried about age or anything (46), but I withhold all out excitement because after his only seasons as DC, our Radford graduate had those responsibilities taken from him.
After all is said and done, and after my own personal process of elimination, I’m at a point where I’d be most excited if Norm Chow was named later this week as our new University of Hawaii head football coach.
Norm Chow, head coach, Warrior football!!!!!
You cannot compare Bob Nash with Rich Miano. Hawaii has a lot of Division I football players, lucky to get one a year in basketball. It’s like comparing apples, with oranges. Nash couldn’t get good players in BB. Arnold is proving that he can get better players. Miano has recruited v. good players ala Colt and Kealoha.
It’s Chow’s to refuse.
If he refuses, Koetter.
Open your hearts to the new era for the warriors. Could be very soon my friends. Be like water.
BIK
Derek,
Yes, Miano did recruit a few good players, but he recruited them for Head Coaches, JJ and Mack, not for Rich Miano. There is the difference.
ciriticing the selection committee is one, but not knowing who they are and bad mouthing them is not too smart. i don’t kow any of the selection committee personally, but i do know that the rock went to osu at the same time as sam harris at colorado and john berrington at iowa state, jean rolles husband started chuck’s cellar and my uncle richard use to babysit her kids, duane kurisu the winter ball league in hawaii which produced ichiro. i have heard or read about the rest of the committee and they seem to have the right stuff to select our hew hc. to bad mouth them is not too cool expecially if you neva met them.
For me, I really never did appreciate Miano publically politicing for the gig. It kind of rubbed me the wrong way. I don’t know the guy, but it came off almost desperate, almost begging and really sincere or classy.
As for the committee, don’t know them either, personally that is, but each one of them is highly successful, so how could you not have respect for them.
Upstanding members of society et all…….
Koetter, to me, simply had nothing to do with Hawaii. At all seemingly. I like the fact we can grow our own. One of us so to speak.
Akina, in my opinion, unlike Chow, never really worked the local kids to join him wherever he was coaching. I always felt Chow kept his feet firmly planted on the rock thru recruiting.
Banker, I just didn’t see the logic in hiring a guy from a program struggling more than UH. Despite the fact it’s in the PAC-12, it was the bottom of the PAC-12 wasn’t it….?
Norwood, I really do look at him as a close second to Chow. I read up on him and it a;; comes across as great person. Family man, straight as an arrow seemingly Much class, stand up person, well liked, and currently part of a very successful program.
Derek on #440,
I’m tired of people bashing Coach Nash undeservedly. He recruited good players; had 3 very good players in the fold. UH, in its well-documented incompetence, could not hire Nash in a timely fashion, so the 3 players went to Utah State and New Mexico state and at least 2 ended up as all-WAC Conference players to my recollection. Since then, UH has streamlined / shortened their hiring process (e.g. Coach Gib’s hire). UH set Nash up for failure; place the blame where it really belongs. And by the way, it didn’t help that Hiram was rusty and hobbled and that his best player (Amis) went down unexpectedly. If Nash been hired sooner and the 3 had stayed, it would’ve been a different story and you wouldn’t constantly be bad-mouthing a classy coach.
Congrats again to the Wahine basketball team for their win earlier tonight. A completely different team came out to play in the second half.
With respect to selecting the new coach – I would definitely prefer to hire someone who is young and able to grow rather than someone who’s been around for the past seventy kazillion years.
However, if I am still around next September, I’ll be at Aloha Stadium no matter who is selected. However, I don’t think that I’ll even finish up 2011-2012 NCAA sports year.
The only really junk hire over the past decade was Jim Bolla.
The baseball team officially starts spring training on January 3rd. Go ‘Bows.
Whoever it was that snarked at the use of the word Rainbow as a team name, go take a Hawaiian culture class before you bad-mouth the word. All the men”s teams should be called Rainbow Warriors.
#354-
Hee, hee. Why does that post remind me of the feeling I got when I heard M. Night Shyamalan’s line in Signs, “Don’t look in my pantry…”
I have been looking everywhere for something like this!
This came up in my reader, just wanted to say thank you!
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According to Bobby Curran’s sources three names have been forwarded by the Committee.
1. Dirk Koetter- the leader
2. Norm Chow
3. Brian Norwood
After reading Ferd’s article I quess the committee will forever be known as the Ouija Board.
d1shima –
Shouldn’t there be a drum roll too?
#446 Doc…Kalei and Vicki make a huge difference…i think they are going to cause a stir in Manoa…if they can stay away from injuries, I think they’ll be very competitive in the WAC where there are no giants. Go Wahine!
I’d really like to hear Coach Dirk’s answer to questions regarding his management of running back Loren Wade…http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2006-05-04/news/fire-him/
Koetter must have said things that were simply amazing to have the committee overlook past alleged transgressions at ASU. His must have been a well laid out plan of action with promises to keep much of the staff.
Somehow if that is the case, I just do not see that translating to a huge ground swell of re-interest by the fickled local fan base to rush out and buy tickets. Hopefully, if he is chosen, there is something else buried in that “package” he put forth, such as he would get Chris Naeole to coach O-line and Mike Singletary will come to be D-coordinator as they both really don’t need the money.
As the jury deliberates…with all the recent scandals in college football will the Koetter ASU incident have and influence on MRC Greenwood?
poll update 7:20 AM 12/20/2011
The UH football-coach search committee has interviewed the following candidates — which one should be the next head coach?
Duane Akina (49%, 3,874 Votes)
Norm Chow (39%, 3,084 Votes)
Brian Norwood (6%, 451 Votes)
Dirk Koetter (4%, 304 Votes)
Mark Banker (2%, 135 Votes)
Total Voters: 7,848
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I am not advocating for Koetter, but doesn’t it seem reasonable that he would be the front runner for now simply because he’s been a HC?
According t0 BC Miano didn’t even make the first cut. Applicants had to have a HC or coordinators experience to survive the cut. Was that the DQ’s for the job?
Just say no to the possibility of Singletary in Hawaii. NO NO NO. Too much rage. His players turned on him in San Fran. I wonder why? And these very same players are now part of the #2 seed in the NFL.
BIK
Koetter might be the front runner because UH and Norm Chow could be MILES apart on a contract agreement.
Remember, all we the fans get to see is the surface level discussions, rumors, and news clips. We have very little idea on what is going on behind the scenes.
BIK
Koetter will just use UH as a stepping stone when a higher job comes calling
just say NO to Koetter
I don’t mind Koetter using UH as a stepping stone. Many have. It would also mean that he would have to be successful to do so. I think that is what we need now.
Reardon: Koetter x’s and o’s are right up there but- with the recent national scandals his checkered past at ASU-UH upper campus would put itself in a bad place by hiring Koetter.
There will be behind the scenes action today.
BC said two former NFL HC’s, Mike Martz and Brad Childress, applied but did not make the cut.
He also thinks a decision will be made late this week or early next week.