Wahine down (34 RPI, 14 poll) Warriors’ exhibition Friday
Hawaii down a spot to 34 in RPI
http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weeklyrpi/2016WVBrpi1.html
nebraska replaces Wisconsin at 1. Badgers to 2
three opponents ahead of UH
7 Washington
10 UCLA
17 Kansas State
will be back in a bit to discuss more but some below UH
36 Arizona
46 Long Beach State
61 Pacific
64 Cal Poly
69 Northern Illinois
76 UC Santa Barbara
Wade was on the morning show. talked about his exhibitions this Friday vs. UC Irvine
They play SportConX Nov. 16
He discussed the schedule, which includes road trip to midwest. Think I mentioned a while back they wanted to play Lewis and Loyola but Loyola didn’t want to.
talked a little about newcomers and while he couldn’t mention Tuileta by name, hinted about him. Have mentioned earlier that Tuileta is at KCC and expected to be at UHM in spring.
back in a bit. will catch up with results from last week. wasn’t online while visiting mom last week.
Catching up with some scores from last week
From Sunday
1) Nebraska def. 3( Minnesota 24-26, 25-18, 26-24, 22-25, 15-8
7) Washington def. Arizona 26-24, 23-25, 28-26, 25-20
8) North Carolina def. Syracuse 25-21, 25-12, 25-21
10) Florida def. Georgia 25-19, 25-19, 25-8
14) Stanford def. 25 USC 25-22, 25-19, 25-21
15) UCLA def. Cal 26-24, 22-25, 25-15, 25-17
21) Kentucky lost to Missouri 21-25, 26-28, 25-16, 25-22, 12-15
In today’s poll, Wahine down a spot to 14
Nebraska back to a unanimous No. 1 (votes were split last week)
Top 8 remained unchanged
https://www.avca.org/polls/di-women/10-24-2016.html
Scores from Saturday
4) Wisconsin def. Iowa 25-15, 25-20, 25-23
5) San Diego def. Pepperdine 25-14, 25-22, 28-30, 25-16
9) Penn State lost to 16) Michigan 23-25, 25-17, 27-29, 25-23, 9-15
11) Michigan State lost to 19) Ohio State 21-25, 19-25, 19-25
16) BYU def. Loyola Marymount 25-23, 23-25, 21-25, 25-22, 15-12
20) Utah def. Oregon State 25-15, 23-25, 21-25, 27-25, 15-9
22) Illinois lost to 24) Purdue 25-14, 22-25, 25-19, 16-25, 11-15
23) Oregon def. Colorado 25-14, 21-25, 25-22, 25-21
Long Beach State def. Cal Poly 25-20, 22-25, 25-18, 25-22
UC Davis def. Cal State Fullerton 25-20, 25-20, 26-28, 25-21
UC Irvine def. UC Riverside 25-16, 25-14, 26-24
UCSB def. Cal State Northridge 25-20, 25-23, 23-25, 25-17
From Friday
1) Nebraska def. Wisconsin 25-21, 25-22, 25-15
2) Texas def. Texas Tech 21-25, 25-18, 25-16, 26-28, 15-7
3) Minnesota def. Iowa 21-25, 25-20, 20-25, 25-13, 15-11
4) Wisconsin lost to Nebraska 21-25, 22-25, 15-25
7) Washington def. Arizona State 25-18, 25-21, 25-14
8) North Carolina def. Boston College 25-19, 25-10, 25-14
10) Florida def. Mississippi State 25-12, 25-13, 25-17
12) Florida State def. Virginia 27-25, 25-22, 25-16
15) UCLA def. 14 Stanford 17-25, 25-17, 25-21, 25-22
18) Washington State def. Arizona 27-25, 25-23, 25-16
20) Utah lost to 23 Oregon 27-25, 25-27, 25-22, 20-25, 11-15
21) Kentucky def. South Carolina 25-11, 25-20, 31-29
22) Illinois def. Indiana 25-18, 25-19, 25-20
24) Purdue lost to Northwestern 19-25, 25-18, 19-25, 26-28
25) USC def. Cal 25-22, 25-21, 25-18
Big West
Cal Poly def. Cal State Northridge 22-25, 25-23, 27-25, 25-15
Long Beach State def. UCSB 21-25, 22-25, 25-15, 25-21, 15-13
From Thursday
5) San Diego def. Loyola Marymount 25-19, 25-17, 21-25, 25-15
6) Kansas def. West Virginia 25-18, 25-20, 25-22
16) BYU def. Pepperdine 25-14, 25-12, 25-20
32) UNLV def. Air Force 25-18, 25-21, 25-19
Big West
UC Davis def. UC Riverside 25-22, 18-25, 25-16, 25-19
UC Irvine def. Cal State Fullerton 25-18, 25-22, 25-11
Wednesday
2) Texas def. TCU 25-23, 25-21, 25-17
9) Penn State def. 19 Ohio State 25-21, 25-20, 25-17
11) Michigan State def. Rutgers 25-15, 25-13, 25-16
12) Florida State def. Miami-FL 25-12, 25-15, 25-22
16) Michigan def. Maryland 21-25, 21-25, 25-18, 25-14, 18-16
18) Washington State def. Arizona State 25-21, 25-18, 25-20
Anybody hear what Wade said about newcomers this morning on Bobby Curran?
Can anyone clarify? If UH beats LBSU in Nov. & both teams end up with just one conference loss, will be first tie-breaker be the UH-LBSU series set differential, or would they automatically look at how each team played the #3 team in the standings?
8. The first tie-breaker is the winner of the 2 match series between the tied teams.
See previous blog thread: “Hawaii down to 33 in RPI, up to 13 in poll” #34, or go to
http://www.bigwest.org/code_book/2017/2016-17%20BWC%20Manual%20-%20Section%2021-VB8.1.16.pdf
jmy — there are a couple other tie-breakers that the BW would go to before looking at set differential b/w hawaii and lbsu, and how they each played against the #3 team in the standings.
the BW tie-break procedures are discussed here at: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-down-to-33-in-rpi/
check out posts 34, 44 and 56.
the first tie-break is the 2-match series b/w hawaii and lbsu. (which under your scenario, leaves them still tied 1-1).
second, hawaii and lbsu’s records against conference opponents starting at the top of the standings. (under your scenario, this too would still leave hawaii and lbsu tied).
third, they would look at the total win/loss set record in ALL conference matches, including the matches b/w hawaii and lbsu. (hawaii with the slight edge at this point with 23-5 set record, to lbsu’s 27-8. lbsu has played one more match than hawaii at this point.)
fourth, if still tied, they look at total win/loss set record against individual conference opponents, starting at the top of the standings.
fifth, if still tied, they look at point ratio.
keep in mind, that these tie-breakers are to decide who gets the automatic berth into the NCAA tournament. tied teams at the top of the BW rankings would share the conference championship.
Thanks for the responses. I guess my real question is if they both end up with one loss each, would sets won/loss be part of the record, or would they just look at matches…Either way, it’s not looking good for UH. I know that there’s still time & that anything can happen, but it’s looking more & more like Beach will come here undefeated in conference play…
What did Coach Wade say about Rado Parapunov and the rest if the recruits i assume only Parapunov, tuileta and Mautuatia will play much from the newcomers.
11. As 10 pointed out, I believe head to head set records only count as part of the collective conference set records under tie-breaker #3. So given their current respective set records, even if UH sweeps LBSU 3-0, but wins all its remaining matches 3-2 while LBSU sweeps its remaining matches, LBSU will win the third tie-breaker.
I’ll post a link later this evening to a worksheet that lays out all the tie-breakers and where HI and LB currently stand in a head to head. I put it together last week but wasn’t sure anyone would want to look at it. I intend to update it once a week or so, until the matter is no longer in doubt. Bottom is HI needs to take care of business every outing going forward, and they’ll have a good shot at controlling their fate.
Talked with several of the girls at Beach Volleyball Portuguese Horseshoe Fundraiser yesterday. They said that they really needed that 1 week bye to heal up nagging injuries. They all feel re-energized to finish the last part of the BW Conference strong .
LBSU lost three sets to UCSB & Cal Poly this past week, which gives UH a slight advantage over LB in tiebreaker #3, as Cubicle pointed out. If UH beats LB in the rematch by a 3-2 set score and wins their remaining matches, even if LB wins the rest of their conference matches by 3-0 set scores, UH could still afford to lose 3 sets in their remaining matches and get the AQ. If UH can beat LB 3-0 or 3-1, or LB loses any more sets, that would give UH even more room to work with in tiebreaker #3. Perhaps Maverick, Cubicle, or someone else could check my math (never was a strong suit for me), but I think it looks good for UH if they take care of business from here on out.
it should be noted too that while hawaii may have the edge right now in terms of the win/loss record for sets (hawaii is 23-5, lbsu is 27-8) … the remaining schedule favors lbsu …
for lbsu, 5 of their last 7 conference matches are against the teams in the bottom half of the big west standings …
while for hawaii, 4 of their last 7 conference matches are against teams in the top half of the standings. (the up side though is that hawaii will be playing at home for 3 of those: lbsu, cal poly and ucsb.)
Can someone help me remember what TV stations, covered UH sports. OC, KFVE, KHNL. I’m trying to look for old games online. The oldest game I know is the 1987 championship game.
cruisecontrol — good points. yes, you’re correct that hawaii has some “insurance” if the tiebreak comes down to total sets won/lost against teams in the conference.
note though my post above. hawaii with the slightly tougher schedule from here on out, since they will be playing more teams in the top half of the conference than lbsu will.
19. Yep, good point that UH definitely has the tougher row to hoe. I hope the fans turn out and get the SSC rocking. Wish I could be there. 🙁
Below is a share to a MicroSoft OneDrive folder containing an Excel file I drafted that shows the current Big West WVB Auto Qualifier ranking and tie-breakers, tailored for a Hawaii vs. Long Beach head to head comparison. If you are familiar with OneDrive and Excel and how they work, you should have no problem opening and navigating it. I pieced it together quickly so it could have some errors. If you catch any please let me know. I intend to update it after each week of matches for as long as the Big West outcome is in doubt, but no guarantees on updates or accuracy. Here’s the share:
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AgoVY4MJP0wagnGTEuORoQZT37gT
21. Thanks for your efforts! This will be interesting to track especially if UH & LB are neck in neck toward the end of the season.
12. as mentioned in initial post, Wade couldn’t talk about Tuileta since he’s not enrolled at UHM. but is at KCC. is expecting him in spring.
Said he expects get things from Mautautia.
He thought Parapunov had Umlauft potential and that he was the leading point scorer in the Euro competition.
and thanks for the help on the tiebreaker question
new thread up for Tuesday
http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=39863