Thursday check in

by Cindy Luis on February 9, 2017

MPSF results from Wednesday
UCSD swept CSUN 27-25, 25-13, 25-14
first five-match winning streak for the Tritons since 2012
link to that game story, plus other links to quotes and box

http://www.ucsdtritons.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5800&ATCLID=211462393

*PEPPERDINE def. UCSB 23-25, 25-12, 34-32, 31-29

To continue the previous thread,
someone said they wanted a proven head coach, preferably one who has won a national title.
There are not a lot of those still out there beyond Shoji
Banachowski (retired)
Dunning (retired)
Erbe (retired)
Pettit (retired)
Shaw (retired)
Haley (clase to retiring)
Rose (close to retiring)
Gimmillaro (let’s just say doubtful as a UH hire)
McLachlin (in his dream job at Notre Dame)
Sealy (middle of 5 year contract)
Cook (makes too much money at Nebraska)
Elliott (makes to much money at Texas)

When you look at the 35-year history of NCAA women’s volleyball, only 10
programs have won a championship
SC, Hawaii, UCLA, Pacific, Texas Long Beach State, Stanford, Nebraska, Penn State, Washington.

1 Cindy Luis February 9, 2017 at 10:11 am

and for those who might have missed it, Wade said he is not applying. likes where he’s at with the men’s program, feels they have real chances to get to the NCAA tournament when moving to the Big West and win a championship.

2 z February 9, 2017 at 12:04 pm

In Ferd’s article today it was mentioned that Dave has given Matlin four names to consider. Two names were Wong and Fisher. Still Matlin says that he will be making the call on the choice.

3 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 12:11 pm

If the four names are Fisher, Sealy, Wong and Rubio I’d rank them like this.

1. Sealy ( national championship , probably a long shot cause of his contract)
2. Fisher (Got pitt into NCAA tournament 2nd round in 3 seasons)
3. Rubio (Has been consistently good at Arizona , Ncaa tournaments appareances but maybe underachieving a bit)
4. Wong ( has not taken Pepperdine to the next level yet)

So IMO Fisher over Rubio because he does more with less, is younger and more familiar with UH. Plus his wife is a former UH soccer player so maybe they want to live on Oahu again.

4 Hapaguy February 9, 2017 at 12:31 pm

What about Hugh McCutcheon? I’m surprised I haven’t seen his named mentioned…

5 blunite February 9, 2017 at 1:08 pm

Yes, Hugh McCutcheon is an akamai coach, who lacks a national title (but we won’t hold that against him.) His innovative style gets results (definitely fun to watch), and Hawaii is closer to his native land.

6 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 1:23 pm

Get Real McCutcheon seems content In minneapolis cause his wife is from there, if Stanford couldn’t get him why would UH??
He has no hawaii ties either.

7 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 1:25 pm

I’d be happy with either Fisher or Rubio to be honest. Definitely a better hire than Stanford lol at least those two got wins in the NCAA tournement last year unlike Stanford’s new coach.

8 Uncle Fester February 9, 2017 at 1:49 pm

Matlin has no margin for error; he has to get the right guy the first time. If he doesn’t and then we have to replace the replacement, then a lot of luster will be off the program, as a result of which UH will fall further behind the big conferences.

One requirement of the new guy is to maintain UH’s position as one of the few (only?) non-Big 5 conference schools who can justifiably be mentioned with those schools. That means recruiting and then coaching. Of course, there are other required attributes.

My approach would be to define the required attributes, determine who best fits that bill, and then go out and get that person, no matter who it is or what it takes to get that person here. I would have a check in my pocket with carte blanche to put in the number. This is our sole crown jewel. What do you not do to protect it? What will deep-pocket supporters do to help UH if not protect the crown jewel?

After spending $$$$ on phony concerts, buyout/settlements, and other assorted mistakes, can we not spend a fraction of that to get the right guy? If the VB program goes into decline, what does that portend for the whole program?

9 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 2:00 pm

The way we will stay a top volleyball program is to get a coach that makes the most of the talent he gets. To me that’s not Coach Rubio, that’s Coach Fisher.
Also someone that is not afraid to go the foreign route in recruiting, Coach Rubio had one player from overseas on his 2016 roster ( but she was a transfer from USF), Coach Fisher had three recruits from overseas on his roster last season.

Also someone that can continue to get the top in state talent. Elena Oglivie is a must.
If I was Matlin I would ask each of the coaches if they know who Elena Oglivie is and if they are currently recruiting her.

10 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm

Want to add Both Coach Rubio and Coach Fisher had hawaii girls on their 2016 roster. Although both Hawaii girls on Arizona were transfers.
As far as national team coaching, Rubio has never done any of that, While Fisher has coached the Pan American team ( b level USA national team) two summers in a row.

11 Cindy Luis February 9, 2017 at 2:27 pm

2. mentioned that on previous thread. also mentioned that when Lewis wrote “reportedly” two of the names were Fisher and Wong, that was from my story that “reported” that Tuesday.

6. agree with you about McCutcheon and have discussed this before. originally took the UCLA job to be closer to the national training center at the time. but when Hebert retired at UM, easy for him to take it with his wife’s family in the area. if you remember his father in law was killed during the Beijing Olympics when McCutcheon was coaching the U.S. team.

9. not sure what foreign recruits have to do with anything. players have to fit in your program, regardless of where they’re from.

10. Rubio and Shoji longtime friends and some history with transfers there … Croson to UA and Magill to UH.
I believe Rubio has done some USAV coaching, might be more at the high performance level. He’s been at UA for 25 years He’s 57 and has a long resume.

12 rabbit ears February 9, 2017 at 2:39 pm

More than winning . You want someone who will treat the wahines right. No more Bolla’s.

Comment about Charlie Wade. He is currently between a rock and a hard place. How can he apply without betraying his guys. That’s why he said, there needs to be common interest.

13 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 3:49 pm

IMO, the Sealy contract issue is being overplayed. Hambly left Illinois with three years remaining. Not sure about McLaughlin, but he left for ND without much warning. If someone wants a dream job, they won’t let a contract get in the way. Sealy may not leave UCLA, but being in the middle of a contract seems far down on the list of key reasons to me.

14 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 4:12 pm

I think some fans believe UH should go after foreign (x-Canada) recruits because UH no longer attracts top ten talent from the US, as the top tier programs do. Plus, if you see how Wade has recruited internationally on the men’s side, it makes some wonder why WVM doesn’t put more focus there. There are lots of female foreigners playing in the US. Why can’t UH get its share? It may be an easier sell for someone already inclined to play far from home to come to the sunny aloha state, as opposed to a kid wanting to stay close to home in the Midwest or on the west coast.

15 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 4:24 pm

Hambly was probably not on the Illinois AD’s good side, with having missed the NCAA tournament this past season, he probably bolted to Stanford to start off fresh, more seasons like 2016 at Illinois and he would have been out of a job, Again bad hire for Stanford.

It’s nothing like that for Sealy who had another solid season, has a great incoming recruiting class and is at his alma mater, and probably in no hot seat with his AD.

16 Uncle Fester February 9, 2017 at 4:25 pm

In my opinion, there is Sealy, and then there’s the rest. I would kidnap him if I had to.

17 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 4:27 pm

14. I am one of those fans,
It would be more hard work for the coaches, more travel, and going to Europe to scout isn’t cheap, but it does pay off if you can haul in someone like Stijn Van Tilburg IMO, I like that Fisher isn’t afraid to bring in European players as freshmen. two of them were among his top three players this past season.

18 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 4:28 pm

16.If you put Fisher at UCLA, you would not see that much of a difference in the quality of the current Sealy led UCLA team.

19 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 4:31 pm

It’s only a matter of time before a big time program gets Fisher, and he will be among the top coaches in the womens game and possible successer to Karch on the national team. I don’t see him lasting at Pittsburgh.
I just hope it’s UH.

20 innocent observer February 9, 2017 at 5:44 pm

how about kevin wong? he seems very knowledgeable and has the right temperament. he doesn’t have college coaching experience but he has the smarts and ability.

21 Cindy Luis February 9, 2017 at 5:51 pm

13. if you say so. been told that it is an issue.
20. K Wong doesn’t meet the basic criteria of coaching experience.

22 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 7:08 pm

15. Thanks for making my argument that there are more important reasons, other than where someone is in her/his contract term, for making a move. However, I don’t agree with your speculation on Hambly, but that is mere speculation on my part.
17. Yes, you are one of those fans. BTW, I too am one of those fans.
21. This is news. To this point, your comments on the blog have reflected your personal opinion without mentioning someone has told you of the importance of the remaining contract term. If Sealy told you directly, then I defer completely. Otherwise, everything discussed, including my comment, is either hearsay or pure speculation. But that’s the fun part of this blog. Wouldn’t you agree?

23 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 7:19 pm

Petrie, Booth and Garus will be throwing their hats in the ring. ;p
Wonder what folks think about that.

24 Arghp February 9, 2017 at 7:35 pm

Agree with pretty much everything that’s been said. LIke Stanford, UH’s hire will send a ripple through college volleyball.

23: Booth?! I didn’t think anything would get her to leave Creighton, she would be a candidate – she’s talented.

25 blunite February 9, 2017 at 9:23 pm

Wondering if UH Manoa currently complies with Equal Opportunity criteria. For example, is there a representative number of female coaches?

If not, Mary Wise of Florida is a stretch, but might work. Don’t know much about her but she is a good recruiter and her teams consistently go deep in the NCAA tourney. (If not for the blown call versus Texas she could have been playing for the national championship last season.)

26 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 9:40 pm

Here are my Vegas odds regarding the next UH WVB coach. For entertainment purposes only–I won’t be taking any wagers, sorry.

2-1: Dan Fisher. He’s got the Hawaii ties, collegiate head coaching and US national coaching resume, international and local recruiting success, won a championship in NAIA so he knows how to win, is at a good, but not traditionally great, program he has built that will propel him to a better job somewhere, affordable, and has warriorfan’s public endorsement. Also, Matlin’s two hires have been younger coaches (albeit assistants), so there may be a bias to go younger if all other factors are equal. No obvious negatives other than not being a woman, if that is even a criterion. But all of the obvious candidates are men. Not saying he is the number 1 choice, but the most likely hire.

3-1: Mike Sealy. Has the NCAA championship, former UH WVB assistant, very good recruiter in second toughest conference and most competitive geographic region, loves Hawaii, very good tactical skills, and has my public endorsement. Negatives are he will take a pay cut (Matlin isn’t paying a lot for new coaches and UH has a more limited budget than UCLA), he will go to a tougher recruiting situation, and has things rolling again at UCLA. IMO the best candidate who may turn down the job.

15-1: Scott Wong. UH ties and experience, but lacks the coaching success at Pepperdine. Young but unproven. If Shoji stays on for a few more years, Scott’s odds may improve. But not today.

25-1: Dave Rubio. Basically a poor man’s Sealy. Good second tier Pac-12 coach, has had past success in the tournament, but an overall inconsistent record. Good, long-time experience but Matlin may go younger. Has lost a lot of recruiting battles for top AZ talent, even to Florida. I think the train has already left the station.

30-1: Kevin Hambly. There is still time for Stanford to rectify its mistake and for UH to make one.

40-1: Reed Sunahara. Basically a poor man’s Dan Fisher. Good but inconsistent success at collegiate level, very good record with team USA. Hilo native. Just completed second year at WVU. Could be a dark horse candidate, very dark horse.

50-1: Dietre Collins-Parker. One of the most decorated Wahine ever. Checks the gender box. Mixed record at UNLV, very good record at Cornell, and so-so at SDSU. Concerns about her recruiting prowess and in-game tactics. Still revere her for helping to put UH WVB on the national stage.

60-1: Jennifer Petrie. San Diego coach has produced some great teams in the past few years. West coast is proximate to Hawaii. Another top female coach. No obvious Hawaii ties. May love living in San Diego so much that she won’t trade it for the 50th state.

75-1: Kirsten Booth. Creighton coach has the resume, 2x national coach of the year, don’t have any idea how she is still at Creighton, top female coach recruiting against Nebraska. No Hawaii ties, unfortunately.

100-1: Waldo. Biggest issue is that no one can find him.

500-1: Any former Wahine player without collegiate head coaching experience or significant collegiate assistant experience.

1,000-1: Barack Obama. Recently left his leadership position and is available. Has Hawaii ties. Issues with basketball-only experience and lack of coaching experience. Doesn’t help that his library is being planned for Chicago rather than Honolulu. But he would galvanize the masses.

1,500-1: Any ACC, SEC, Pac-12, Big-10, or Big-12 coach not mentioned below without Hawaii ties. Fewer resources, harder to recruit, doesn’t understand Hawaii. Probably a stepping stone move. No thanks.

5,000-1: Any ACC, SEC, Pac-12, Big-10, or Big-12 coach with a top 25 team but without Hawaii ties. Fewer resources, probably lower pay, harder to recruit, doesn’t understand Hawaii. Probably sees the job as too difficult or a step down. Really, no thanks.

10,000-1: Any child of Dave Shoji. Nuff said.

20,000-1: Charlie Wade. Supreme recruiter on men’s and women’s teams. Got things rolling with the UH men. Middling success at Pacific. Most importantly, won’t apply. But bettors never say never.

250,000-1. Brian Gimmillaro. Has the resume, but the game has passed LBSU by. Reviled by many in the UH fan base. I think Lucifer has a better shot at getting hired.

27 Kahuna February 9, 2017 at 9:57 pm

I wonder if Lang Ping have any interest in coaching at UH. Would be a coup if we can get her.

28 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 10:21 pm

26. I think Lang Ping makes too much coaching the Chinese national team.

25. I enjoyed reading that rewrite good job lol

I remember when Fisher left the Warrior team to coach the Concordia womens team, I was upset because he was a big loss for the warriors, but I thought he could come back someday to replace Shoji, kind of cool that it might become reality.

29 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 10:22 pm

^Didn’t mean rewrite sorry lol meant write-up

30 Uncle Fester February 9, 2017 at 10:26 pm

Many of the proposed names are, in my opinion, too old. UH needs someone who will be around for many, many years. Program stability.

Everyone writes about why it would be hard to attract certain persons, but isn’t this job one of the most desirable in VB? Doesn’t the chance come to someone only once in a career? What would you do if, in your field, people approached you about a dream job that will be offered to you only once in your career? Sorry, I got a good recruiting class coming in. Sorry, I have 2 years left on my contract. If the UH job is a truly desirable one, no one, in my opinion, who is asked to have a serious conversation with Matlin will allow short term considerations to overrule career-long considerations.

I’m not in favor of breaking the bank, but this is one UH job in which money within reason should not be an object. UH and Shoji invested 40 years in this, so there is a 40 year investment and national reputation to protect. If we can’t get the best guy because UH would not pay him, then it better be because the guy asked for the moon and not because UH tried to get off cheaply.

31 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 10:27 pm

27. Thx for the kind words.

32 warriorfan February 9, 2017 at 10:40 pm

29. Dan Fisher is 40, Scott Wong is 38. Sealy is 46. that’s not too old.
All three could stick around 20 plus years.

33 Maverick February 9, 2017 at 10:57 pm

31. To add, Shoji was 28 when he was hired. It was a different era back then. Now WVB is a big deal and a lot more folks are playing and coaching. You don’t see a lot of sub-30 coaches getting top jobs anymore. One exception is Keegan Cook, who took over Washington when he was 29. Hambly was about 36 when Illinois hired him.

34 haka February 10, 2017 at 7:00 am

Obviously, from a qualification standpoint, only the best available will be considered, but I doubt that they will hire anyone without Hawaii ties or someone who’s long term residency in the islands will be a potential issue. If his hiring pattern continues, Matlin will hire close to the vest and heart with someone who will stay as long as possible because they consider it to be their dream place to be. Love and loyalty to Hawaii will play a huge role of consideration in my opinion.

35 rabbit ears February 10, 2017 at 9:16 am

Ganot and Rolo are turning out great. But they were definitely budget minded hires.
But the football and Basketball team don’t have the status of Wahine volleyball. We need a top tier coach now.

36 Cook 'Em February 10, 2017 at 12:35 pm

#26: It’s not often that I read something that both informs me and makes me laugh! Great post — you made my day!

37 Ron February 10, 2017 at 1:38 pm

Yes, Maverick with a sense of humor. Who knew!

38 Cindy Luis February 10, 2017 at 4:59 pm

http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=41769
new thread up.
Maverick you have great insight. but when I have promised people not to say anything I don’t. so when I said i’ve been told differently, that’s what I’ve been told by people who know.
sorry that you won’t take my word on things.
25. She spells it Deitre.

as for Shoji being 28 when he was hired … very different era and a part time job. it was Chris McLachlin’s job that he then gave up because Punahou said he couldn’t do both (coach UH and Punahou).

interesting hire at Illinois
http://fightingillini.com/news/2017/2/10/tamas-introduced-as-illini-volleyball-coach.aspx

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