ASU wins in 5; Wahine 3, Aztecs 0
Much like Saturday with UH, ASU couldn’t hold a lead in Set 4
They were up 20-17 and served for the match at 24-23. Net serve tied it and Ohio scored the next 2.
Don’t think Hawaii-SDSU will start until 545
ASU wins 25-16, 26-24, 26-24, 24-26, 15-8
Set 5 wasn’t as close as the score. At one point, it was 9-1, a 7-0 serving run by Macey Gardner
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UH will start Greeley in place of Manu-Olevao. Mendoza at libero. Kahakai the DS who will come in for Passi in the serving rotation.
S Higgins, MB Adolpho and Magill, OH Long, Passi and Greeley, L Mendoza, DS Kahakai
Hoping to see good things from Greeley tonight.
A nice cheer for Deitre Collins-Parker when she was introduced.
Aztec senior Chaimin Steel was born in Honolulu. Family moved to Nevada but she has plenty family watching the tournament.
Long is passing awful
What a debut for Gianna so far, where was she the first two nights??
Guinasso makes her serving debut. 2 aces and UH on a 4-0 run for a 12-8. TO SDSU
It was more than one ball. Her passes were bad. Overpasses and shakey passes. Cindy, I respect you but you need to understand that attacking is bad, criticism isn’t.
yes, which is why I deleted it.
Greeley can pass.
I really wanna see Maglio and Koelsch play at some point.
UH wins 25-16. Passing has allowed Higgins to use all her options, able to go to Magill more often. wahine also playing well in transition and winning those off plays they didn’t yesterday
Kalei G finally looks comfortable out there and showing her potential. She is gonna be GOOD.
Seems like half of Aztec points are from wahine service errors, not good. But at least the offense finally looks good.
UH up 15-7 at the TTO. Wahine with 10 SEs, SDSU has soared 23 points so almost half.
Wahine still without a hitting error. 25-0-51. .490
I remember Cunningham picked San Diego St. Over UH. she looks like a good prospect.
now three straight errors, all on pretty bad sets IMO.
3 hitting errors in a row. 2 caused by bad set location, either to close to net, or to low.
Last 2 were bad.
Don’t know how serious they were about her.
of course UH has now committed 3 consecutive hitting errors. although they may have considered it a setting error instead of hitting error on Long since they’re only listing 2 errors
17-12. TO Wahine.
Whats with all the service errors. Lucky their winning. Greely looking good.Hope to see more freshman in the 3rd set.
Now I have seen everything. SDSU using a 5’5 OH. She does have some hops though. She could just be the smallest OH in DI.
Passi with the kill. UH up 23-17. TO SDSU
I feel for Deitre her two best players out with injury, they need them badly.
Passi with a facial on the SDSU Libero.
Passi takes out the libero, Greeley ends it 25-17
Poor Aztec Libero , Passi unloaded on her.
Greeley is looking really good. She’s earning a starting spot tonight.
Greeley looking really good in the first 2 sets. SDSU trying to pick on Greeley with their serves, but Greeley has handled all of them flawlessly.
UH 31-4-73, .370.Greeley 10-0-18, Long 8-0-20
11 SEs, 4 in Set 2.
I can see Greeley starting for Passi, on the RS, on Thursday, the way she is playing. She really looks good when she rotates to the Right Side position.
for the second night think the turnstile is really off. 4,554? tickets 6302
A little sloppy out there SDSU up 8-4. TO UH
Higgins sucks.
Cindy, does the crowd look like more then 4,500?
Wop stop. Seriously. Higgins has been setting very good tonight .
I do wanna see Kendra in.
Gianna should be the serving sub from here on out. She has a tough floater and is consistent.
Higgins is undersetting and has location issues, the passing is better so she should not be struggling .
The team is hitting better but I think a lot of that has to do with the Aztec’s porous defense.
Mendoza continues to struggle on serve-receive tonight. SDSU with an overpass and a 17-12 lead. TO UH
Well this is just disappointing , Can’t lose a set to this team.
uh passing visibly shaky in set 3 if not shoddy
Mendoza not the answer at Libero. To many receiving errors.
Higgins is not setting better. Dave recently yelled at her. Then called time out. How is that good setting?
If they lose this, I hope to see Savannah at Libero and Koelsch set.
WF – You got your wish, Kendra in for Tayler, and not just for blocking purposes.
I love Koelsch’s sets.
Greeley and Magill on the block, UH’s 9th. UH has closed to 21-18. TO SDSU
Koelsch in, two beautiful sets.
Serve-receive terrible.
Long again.
Passi and Greeley can do no wrong today
UH has tied it at 23. TO SDSU
Long falling apart on serve receive.
Kendra Koelsch seems to have better timing with the hitters. Also, seems to have quicker foot work getting to the ball to put up a set, not off balance at all.
WUJ, enough already you have made your point. she’s has 9 kills as well
Darn her first freshmen error and it’s a costly one, she second guessed herself looks like she thought about going for the dump.
Pretty bad set by Koelsch ends it. Long never had a chance on that one
SDSU wins 25=23
Hope Kendra starts Set 4. Would love to see her play more.
Yep Long got pinned on that set.
52. how can you say that? UH hit .405, no errors in set 1, 314 in set 2.
Will Shoji change Libero for Set 4.
Higgins back in for Set 4
Higgins setting is very erratic. Bad set to Greeley, decent set to Magill for point.
59. no Mendoza still in.
Mendoza doomed that 3rd set with that silly SE.
UH up 6-0 on Higgins’ serves. an ace and Magill slams back an overpass. TO SDSU
Looks like Higgins did not like sitting during Set 3. Came out with a vengeance in Set 4, with her serving. She is really serving hard and tough.
58. Cindy, I can tell you how…like many of the posters here, there is a strong tendency to remember what happened one minute ago and forget everything that happened before. Typical fair weather fan behavior. As soon as a few things go wrong or the team loses a set, then we need to make wholesale changes immediately. That’s why these posters are not coaching, they are posting anonymously.
This is a young and inexperienced team–more than half the players are freshmen and sophomores. And the starters have not played together much. Clearly, the team will have its ups and downs.
Higgins connecting with Magill AMAZING this set
Kahakai in for Long, on the Outside. That is right, Kahakai playing Outside Hitter position.
Check that ball for helium.
very interesting with Kahakai
Kalei Greeley and Olivia, Co players of the match.
oh my Kahakai with the solo stuff
Go Governor.
Wow, Kahakai, all 5’8 of her, on a solo block. Is there anything she cannot do.
Hey, that block by Kahakai, was for Skippa Diaz, for all you Governors.
Go Savanah.
Kahakai listed at 5-7. still … Little listed at 6-foot
All of sudden Higgins sets look much much better, getting benched must have helped.
Someone must have gotten into Higgins ear, while she was sitting in Set 3, cause she is setting really well in Set 4.
Maglio in for Adolpho.
Savannah Kahakai is a volleyball player.
Kahakai with a kill and the match-ending ace. UH wins 25-14
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Savannah Kahakai, reminds me more of Aneli, and Tita, then Passi does.
Adolpho on all tournament team, would have put Magill in there instead. Manu Olevao on the all tournament team as well.
A little surprised about Adolpho making the all tournament team, but not surprised about Manu-Olevao. Olevao played really well in the 2 matches.
If and when, Nikki Taylor returns to the lineup, you will have Tai, and Nikki, on the Left, and Kalei Greeley, on the Right, the Wahine will then be hard to stop.
Dave said they hope get Nikki in a week but will work her in slowly.
Disappointed Magill not on tourney team
85. — I would also have Magill in the all tournament team, instead of Adolpho. I think Magill had more kills , more blocks and hit at a higher percentage for the weekend. She must be kind of wondering how come she wasn’t selected.
Glad to see Passi hitting well and everybody on the roster appeared in at least one match.
was impressed with Greeley , she keeps this level of play up , BIG west FOY is hers.
Also Olivia was dominant and I think a preview of what we will see her do in the big west.
Liked Gianna as the serving sub, and was impressed with Kendra in set 3.
Im glad Savannah got in the front court, but not sure why her and not Huff???
back later. gotta write
Well this match answered one question. I noticed that in her resume that Savanah Kanakai was an 1st string all-state outside hitter for Farrington High School. She’s short for a Division I hitter, but I always wondered how she would do as an outside hitter instead of DS/libero. I found out. Very well, thank you. She hits just as hard as the Bow’s other outside hitters.
What’s with all the service errors so far this year. I could understand if, like Ohio, there is a deliberate effort to serve tough with the philosophy of high risk-high rewards. But many of the Bows have lollipop serves and they still miss. Frustrating. Did not hurt them tonight except in the 3rd set. However, it needs to be corrected for upcoming tougher teams.
greeley stepped up. she should be starting from now on.
kahakai had the highlight of her UH career tonight. although i suspect, given her abilities, she may have more that will eclipse tonight. she’d definitely a gamer!
No kidding, Magill should have been in the all tournament team. Who does the voting?
Kahakai was amazing! That solo block was awesome, she almost had another one earlier too. In the end, Maglio kind of looked bum, maybe she wanted to get more playing time, her hit was pretty good though! Put her more in please!
Kahakai gets my vote for Aug 31st fan favorite. I hope to see lots more of her.
Kahakai is a very smart volleyball player, has a very high volleyball I.Q. Even at her height of 5’8, she can play the Outside Position, cause she knows how to use the block to her advantage. She does not try to overpower the block, but tool the block. Something the Aneli, and Tita, were very good at doing. The both of them were also 5’8, too.
96. Kazu – Need to ask Cindy, who she voted for. If I am not mistaken, the media people vote for the all tournament team.
94. LanaiBoy – Do not worry, Shoji mentioned when he was interviewed after the match that Serving will be the main focus during practice this coming week.
Interesting schedule this week:
Thursday 7:30pm versus New Mexico
Friday 7:30pm versus Oregon
Saturday 12:00 noon versus St. John
That Saturday match will be a quick turnaround for the Wahine, due to football game at 4:30pm.
After tonight who here doesn’t think Greeley should be in the starting lineup.
Glad the Higgins-Magill connection has improved from last night and Passi has finally started to show signs of life.
I’m almost positive aneli wasn’t 5’8. She was like 5’11
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Overall, they looked more efficient than last night regardless of opponent. Greely is the real deal. She is so poised in all especially in serve receive. You can tell how good an athlete is from their stance (how they bend their knees) She looks comfortable and will add and compliment Nikki when she returns. Magill, so quick and when the timing with her sets are efficient watch out!
I also love Gianna get into the game…She brings a great serve into the game. I can see the lineup revolving into: Greeley, Magill, Taylor, Adolpho, Mendoza or Kahakai, and Tai Manu-Olevao. Long and Passi will be added accordingly. I see a problem at the setting position. Higgins (Soph), 1 year experience and talented and Koelsch (Frosh), a bigger block and
effortless setting. Who do you choose? Who will you lose to TRANSFER. Both girls too talented to be sitting…Possible 6-2 offense to cure future dilemma? Tough one?
I can see this team going through some trials but at the end with the right mix/chemistry they will accomplish a sensational season! Why wait til next year right?
Overall a pretty successful weekend, even with the embarrassing loss to ASU.
Will be even better if Mitchem committed and will sign in November.
.106. I’d personally choose Koelsch, I see no difference in her setting with Higgins even though Higgins has a year of experience over her.
The thing is Koelsch has more long term potential and the potential to be “big time” especially in her junior/senior years. She just has such smooth hands for such a tall girl. Play her now it will pay off in the future!!!
I would still play Higgins a lot though, as first serving sub off the bench (like Stephanie Brandt used to) instead of Kahakai who is missing way to many serves.
Koelsch setting, Taylor at opposite( when healthy), Greeley and Olevao on the left
Higgins first serving sub for Taylor , Guinnaso or long second serving sub.
Adolpho and Magill in the middle , Sarah at libero
I think this would be the best lineup to go far in post season.
and Kahakai playing back row for Olevao.
People were upset to see that Mendoza remained starting at Libero tonight, but I’m sure Dave didn’t wanna jump the gun wasting Kahakai there knowing she could possibly be needed at OH for her all around game. Yes, he had Huff waiting in the wings…but look at the silly errors Long made: over-passing a free ball, letting an over-passed dig fall (in front of her and Mendoza). These ball-handling/court awareness errors would most likely not be helped by subbing Huff in. So it was a very smart move for Dave to use former All-State OH Kahakai in that capacity.
When Tai returns to the line-up I don’t see this happening as much & if/when Nikki returns, I don’t see this happening again as Kahakai may eventually take over the Libero spot. The line-up I would like to see before Nikki returns is:
S-Koelsch
MB-Magill, Adolpho
OH-Greeley, Manu-Olevao
Opp-Passi
Lib-Kahakai
DS (for Opp)-Mendoza (Higgings could be used here or be saved to back up Koelsch)
However, I do not see this happening, at least before Nikki returns, because I think Dave will want to display his confidence in Higgins.
ok an expected outcome for the match a win but here goes… declared Greeley is Heroic! and even her serving improved down the line. i think maybe she should just take calm and stand float her serve rather than moving up to the line to serve it. and kahakai shows that she truly is a mobile reserve, she was on fire and delivered fire in the last set. perhaps this is why dave doesnt want to make kahakai the libero because he knew she is more offensive than she is defensive though she is quite capable of both.
adding to the above i think thats why mendoza is libero because essentially dave has no one else to be a better libero without sacrificing kahakai which will cut off her offensive capability. mendoza still needs to dig/pass better sometimes more like still a ds and not of libero caliber. oh well she at least got the luck of scoring a dig kill, a liberos dream today in set 4 (which almost no libero ever had the luxury of including recalling ali longo when she was libero) which actually happend after a while she served and allowed sdsus libero float kill (who says liberos are not allowed to kill/be offensive??) anyways mendoza will stay libero likely because dave thinks experience weighs in doesnt it? or is that the usual excuse? but we need kahakai to be bold along with greeley and the rest of the freshmen (ss ‘short stopping’ opponent rallies) reserves. asu was bold especially in serves and swept the bows. so never mind experience, gloves off and be bold. its on. game on. example tonight guinasso, wahines new gunner.
as i said greeley should continue to just take calm and stand float her serve but what about coaching/training all those who are capable/comfortable especially the 6′ or 6′ 2 and above girls on jump serving? they do not need to be as powerful as hartongs was so it can be like higgins power which is similar to breelle baileys (which looked pretty weak in terms of power btw but effective). just jump serve to be decisive not overpower. if all else fails for anyone else who cant serve as adaquate a floater, what about the underhand (bump) serve? i heard its not done in this level?? suggesting D1 level?? is it illegal because i doubt it, as ive seen it done in ncaa D1 no problem. it was the old-fashioned since you first learned volleyball in elementary method where you stand behind the serving line, hold the volleyball in your opposite of your serving hand and serve by essentially uppercut over the net and into the opposing court. basic volleyball. it is not as powerful or can be directed any easier precisely at a specific receiver or area comparing to a jump serve or floater but its hell as accurate if executed properly which is pretty simple and doesnt require much power. you can virtually guarantee it wont go into the net or wide and even long (as long you dont overpower hitting it). it of course will be easier for the opposing receiver provided they see to it literally. so brace to defend by block/joust/digging it should it result like an overpass to the middle or outside and any dumps they try to make. it would be an accurate serve, and you can ace with it and be decisive with it despite its low risk/low reward.
having said that i think kahakai is already a capable jump server though she hasnt done it in the matches so far. and anyone 6’2 6’3 should learn to jump serve especially nikki taylor (when her gun is undamaged) and kalei greeley.
the match was fairly expected. the opponent was comparably easier so higgins setting being improved?? maybe. after coach shoji chewed her out in set 3 and relieved her from her duties as setter to let her come out more volatile setting back and forth in set 4? surprisingly the libero cannot be relieved of her duties for not being much a libero in passing but a defensive specialist?? long and passi may had high numbers this match but again, expected from an easier opponent?? adolpho seemed to be holding back in taking command. then again speaking of holding back, was that it? did the wahine drop set 3 just to toy with their opponent or us the fans?? just to see if they can recover quickly if threatened? did dave shoji engineer this? that they needed to be threatened to play with some urgency/a purpose? so they drop set 3 incidentally to give the opponent some game (not feel bad) and increase the playing time and entertainment value for the rest of us including the boldness and exploits of the freshmen mobile and ready reserves? you would not have libero kills or a ‘small girl’ roofing a 6′ ‘big girl’ and making a couple kills so efficient and sound. they drop a set once theyre winning and then be like screwing around is over and time for the real show? ‘hey theyre beating us, we have to play harder, and then overplay harder’ (from light pushes to light pushes then shove) btw the all tournament awards i think were awarded by whomever to congratulate including the leaders of the wahine for a successful completion of a tournament (operation) even though they didnt win it. tai manuolevao got it for her steadfast resolve in especially vs asu. and kalei adolpho got it for taking command rallying the first match vs ohio and completing the tourny and thats regardless of she was not deployed enough vs asu and held back vs sdsu. she just made 7 kills vs sdsu so thats like just the minimum standard for a commanding leader. typically that comes with the position of the leaders (which they elected) despite they dont get all the numbers. they get promoted while the rest are to be commended for their performance. commendations to magill, greeley and kahakai.
Ok. Everyone screaming for Koelsch to start over Higgins needs to take a look at the numbers. We’re three matches into the season — there is absolutely no need to jump the gun. I’m not trying to crash the party, just trying to be practical. Through two matches (UH has not updated their cumulative season stats to include numbers vs. SDSU) — Higgins: 185 set attempts, Koelsch: 2. Yes, she did receive more playing time against SDSU (finishing with 3 assists), but even then, fans are judging her abilities based on maybe 10-15 set attempts. I too am intrigued by Koelsch’s size and potential and wish Shoji was less reluctant to let her play. But how do we know Koelsch would have done any better? We Hawaii fans have always been most critical when it comes to the setting.. and why not? We have been blessed with some extraordinary players at that position. Higgins has barely had a chance to showcase her abilities and Koelsch even less. We are not privy to what goes on in practice, so I will continue to trust the coaching staff when it comes to deciding who sets. Just like Uiato (whom fans were equally critical of when she replaced Mafua), I’m sure both Higgins and Koelsch will turn out to be fine players and we fans will look back on all this complaining as nothing more than an afterthought.
The discrepancy between turnstile and tickets sold ( issued ) is begging for an investigation. That’s a lot of tickets who are no shows makes one wonder if these people even exist.
The discrepancy between turnstile and tickets sold is easy to explain for the Saturday match. There were lots of empty seats because the Warrior football game was on television for those who have Oceanic Cablevision’s Sports Pass, which includes CBSS, which carries many UH football games last year. I was watching the televised football game and left when Hawaii was leading in the first half. I was REALLY tempted to stay and watch the rest of the game—the Warriors were doing so well— but I left for the volleyball matches. It’s HARD to compete against football. (Hawaii is football-mad). Traditionally, Thursday and other week day and Sunday volleyball matches have a lots of no shows. Hawaii fans seem reluctant to stay late on week days (VB has lots of senior citizens as fans) and Sundays are picnic and outdoor activities days it seems. Anyways, we will see how this plays out this year. I know that Dave Shoji was not too happy about scheduling VB and football on the same day. It is possible to attend both, but given the traffic situation a very difficult task.
Magill is so much better than Aldopho, in fact, Adolpho is only the third best MB on the team. Higgins made many poor sets that she got bailed out on by her team mates. That being said, she remains the best option until Koelsch gets more experience. Savanna is fun to watch what ever position she plays. This team is a work in progress so enjoy the ride.
Perfect answer Lanaiboy, I am one of those senior citizens that did not use my season ticket seat because of football. I am pretty much a one event per day guy being in my mid seventies.
Well, after the first tournament I guess I could state the obvious when considering experience. In last year’s opening tourney, you could see that the team had a style and personality due to Hartong, Uiato, and Longo and they started off in mid-season form. Their performances were crispy and not so many rough edges. This year, so many new faces, so much rough edges, so much uneasiness. There are two particular areas that could improve: 1) Serving – seems like only Higgins has a power serve but also too many service errors even without power serving. 2) Passing – Obviously it starts with passing. Certainly should be correctable. Even though Hawaii wins, it makes for an ugly win and not representative of the talent level.
121. Sucks when you start getting up there eh. I can see where you coming from.
Between 8 and 8:30 its bed time, but can still enjoy things.
123. I call myself LanaiBoy because I was born on Lanai. Very familiar with “plantation time.” I left Lanai when young but I still remember the whistle that woke everyone up really early to go to work. Yeah, most Lanai people were early to bed people as were most plantation workers. At 8:00 to 8:30 p. m.—most are in bed. We senior citizens have the habits retained from plantation days; don’t like to stay up late. By the way, I attend most of Wahine women’s basketball, softball matches too and a few of the men’s sports. Attendance is soft on weekdays and Sundays there too.
lets put the brakes on replacing Higgins for now. i agree that Koelsch is intriguing but from what i’ve seen, i can’t say that she is better than Tayler. sure, Tayler’s sets to the pins are long sometimes and i’ve criticized her for that, but if Kendra played a lot more, there would probably be something to criticize her for also. plus, Tayler’s serves are killer. Dave should probably use some form of a 6-2 offense to use both servers more.
Cindy, i have a question for you. why doesn’t Passi get to serve? she has a very good jump serve but she hasn’t served even once that i have seen. Olevao is the worst server on the team but is allowed to serve yet Passi gets subbed out. it can’t be that Passi isn’t a good backrow player because Olevao isn’t either. i apologize if somebody already asked this question.
They are still playing around with the serving and passing rotation. would not be surprised to see her serve this weekend. You don’t see the middles serve and the Wahine have some excellent DSs. You saw Guinasso last night, solid server from years on the beach. Magill never served at Arizona but she’s been told she may have to. You saw that Saturday when they ran out of subs.
Surprised to see so much said about Mendoza who tied the Hawaii record held by Ashley Watanabe 10/22/05 for number of digs in 3 sets…24 on Friday! Congratulations! Against San Diego she had 24 digs and played all over the court. Currently running a 5.3 digs per set. Yes, she was way off on Saturday, was hoping all was ok with her since that wasn’t the way we have seen her play in the past year, seems liked she worked through it once Shoji pulled her shirt. I was a defensive player so, that is what I know and I am very impressed with this lady and think you all should check out the numbers and honor her local ties here by not just commenting on a few plays.
higgins jump serve power is pretty moderate in punch which should be efficient and sound in contrast to her fellow punahou classmate tai manuolevaos serve is a light moderate standing floater. perhaps they need to engineer tais serve to be somewhat stronger. both olevaos serve and backrow passing seems to be better this year so far.
Hawaii at #20 in today’s poll
one curious thing was why this match had full support including from the cheer/manoa maniacs when vs asu where it was crucial had no support until middle of set 2 and it was only a fraction/half support? also the crowd cheering lets go bows seem to be effectless for now. they kind of died down or got the picture. let us hope that the opposing team dont feed off that energy like what byu did as a result of unnecessary fanfare from the crowd when its not approriate. either its making them more nervous or its distracting the wahine players.
wow that loss to asu brought the wahine to almost the bottom of the totem pole. they are endangered from going post-season. no more unnecessary fanfare from the crowd making the wahine more nervous or distracted. and they serious need to get passing and serving down. and i should add as evidenced vs asu, striking an opponent away from their arms or even legs like passi did to sdsus libero since the wahine couldnt get the ball down in asus court since they keep popping it back up.
They need to bring back the SCREAM-O-METER thing, where the crowd screams when the opposing team goes to serve. I remember it would get loud when the opposing team goes to serve, but they don’t have that anymore since they upgraded the new screens. Or at least put up a graphic to yell/scream when the other team serves. Need to utilize the fans more and create an intimidating arena and make it tough on them when they go up to serve.
arizona state now took hawaii at #17. hawaii tied with north carolina at #20
see new thread
I think the Dingos ate your new thread because we don’t see any new thread.