Hawaii drops out of poll, at No. 26

Hawaii fell out of the Top 25 poll today, Believe it’s the first time since 1992.
Interesting thing is that every time UH has lost, the team that beat them replaced them at the former ranking. UCLA moves into 22

Michigan State at 25 with 117 points, Hawaii at 95

pushing the Wahine out were Texas A&M unranked to No. 21 and Loyola Marymount unranked to No. 23.


Top 5 all the same. Stanford, Texas, Penn State, Wisconsin and Washington

COMMENTS

  1. Ashley September 15, 2014 11:36 am

    not surprised really, i been really disappointed this season but I guess after losing such great players off last season, this was expected.


  2. Blaze September 15, 2014 12:08 pm

    I’m not disappointed in the team. My expectations were tempered coming into the season. If anything, I’m hopeful and excited for this year’s team because I think we have a lot more potential especially with our team being so young. I would rather take our lumps now and finish strong rather than start strong and finish weak


  3. warriorfan September 15, 2014 12:12 pm

    well they barely dropped, I expect them to climb back in there soon. LMU is a flash in the pan anyway.

    A poster on volleytalk says UH warriors had two recruits visiting last weekend, libero Joseph Worley and middle blocker Patrick Gasman. The two of them are on the youth national team, so they would be great pick ups. I wonder if UH can get TJ Delfaco, MVP from the youth national team too. I think he and Baby G are dating, hope he follows her to UH would be huge gets for Wade.


  4. Cindy Luis September 15, 2014 12:19 pm

    yep, they got a tour of the facilities Saturday.


  5. warriorfan September 15, 2014 12:34 pm

    Thanks for verifying. Gasman would be a huge pickup to replace Averill. And could always use a solid libero.


  6. roofer68 September 15, 2014 12:35 pm

    I’m optimistic and not disappointed at all, with the grad of mainstays Hartong, Uiato , Longo and others, the results of the season so far was not unexpected. With only 3 returning starters and the 7 kids just out of high school, the team is still trying to find their combination for smooth play. By the BW midseason the team will be better two fold and then by BW season’s end, a very dangerous team….just my take.


  7. man eating apple September 15, 2014 12:49 pm

    I would rather start strong and finish strong. But hey if Blaze is going to suffer for our benefits, I’m not going to be the fan to stop her.


  8. warriorfan September 15, 2014 1:06 pm

    It does kind of suck that UH is not a ranked team for the first time in 22 years,
    but it took special circumstances for that to happen (i.e. Nikki being out) As long as UH climbs back in the poll in a few weeks the stigma of not being ranked should be gone quickly. Would hate to see UH in the receiving votes section of the poll all season ( that happened to Long Beach 10 years ago and they haven’t recovered)


  9. Ron September 15, 2014 1:12 pm

    I agree with roofer68, lets give team a chance to grow. I also agree with those who say we need to improve our passing. With Nikki back this should happen. I am coming around to thinking Higgins can do the job with enough practice. Nobody tries harder. I might come off as an apologist for Shogi but he has run a program that has been in the top 5% in the country for 40 years. Maybe he knows a little about how to develop a team.


  10. tongo September 15, 2014 1:27 pm

    In 1992, we did not get into the NCAA tournament for the first and only time in wahine history. However, in the immediate subsequent years of 93, 94, 95, and 96, we bounced back respectively with final standing in the Regional Final, Regional Semi-final, Regional final and then Final Runner-up (where Robin Ah-Mow & Company lost to Stanford for National Championship).

    This team is experiencing growing pain just like in 1992 but I believe the subsequent years will be fantastic. This team has all the making of a great wahine team!


  11. Cindy Luis September 15, 2014 1:34 pm

    Said from the beginning there would be growing pains.
    When you consider things, Adolpho the only starter back from 2013 who has played every match. somewhat inconsistently, but still the only one. Manu-Olevao has missed two, Taylor 7, played against UCLA, started against USF.


  12. setaone September 15, 2014 1:37 pm

    I’m still waiting on this…..

    LC September 14, 2014 at 5:10 am
    “I saw something this morning that could affect Hawai`i in Monday’s poll. I’ll let you know what it is after the poll comes out.”


  13. Haikuguy575 September 15, 2014 1:42 pm

    Here is a topic that will get everyone talking:

    We will not win another National Title with Dave Shoji as the University of Hawaii Volleyball coach!


  14. Cindy Luis September 15, 2014 1:51 pm

    12. I’m not. which is why I’m headed out to do errands. day off and things have piled up since the last one.


  15. rayson September 15, 2014 1:58 pm

    #3: Delfalco would be a fantastic get but who’s Baby G?

    Also I noticed that MiddleHitter.com lists Everett Schuett as a verified 2016 commit for the Warriors. I can’t find much information on him. Anybody know anything about him?


  16. vballfreak808 September 15, 2014 2:07 pm

    14. Baby G is Gianna Guinasso. That is her nickname. DeFalco is already committed to Long Beach State and has been for a while. One of the first in his class to commit.

    Worsley and Gasman were indeed here on there officials. They were guided by Pukahi and Namahoe.

    I don’t see UH getting much local recruits for this upcoming class. There are a few possibilities but not much DI worthy recruits for 2015 yet still talented.


  17. Haikupride808 September 15, 2014 2:29 pm

    Hawaii will never win the National Championship in Women’s Volleyball again.


  18. islandman September 15, 2014 2:56 pm

    17. — How come ? The rest of the US has caught up with Hawaii volleyball talent and coaching ? It seems when Hawaii last won the championships, there were not as many other volleyball teams, etc.


  19. LC September 15, 2014 2:59 pm

    Test


  20. cocobean September 15, 2014 3:16 pm

    #17. Vegas book makers have pegged the Wahine as the favorite to win it all in 2016. I’m going to Vegas in December, sure you don’t want me to put a bet down for you.


  21. LC September 15, 2014 3:21 pm

    setaone – Been having trouble posting here and forgot all about that post.

    On Sunday AVCA had Hawai`i defeating UCLA and UCLA losings to Hawai`i. I thought it was pretty funny and also thought that if left like that it might favor UH come voting time depending on how close some voters followed scores.Late Sunday night it was still like that but I noticed this morning that it was corrected.


  22. LC September 15, 2014 3:36 pm

    Baby G and DeFalco really like and admire each other but it doesn’t look like they are not at the point that attending the same college is important, at least that’s the way it looks right now to this casual observer.

    If it gets really serious then who knows what could happen. Both are kind of young and at their age boyfriends and girlfriends can come and go quickly.


  23. jimmy the lock September 15, 2014 3:37 pm

    Watched the Wahine volleyball matches on OC16 and just want to know who is that announcer that introduces the players? He keeps saying “Y-hine”. It’s not “Y”!!!

    Get it right Mr. Announcer, whoever you are.


  24. warriorfan September 15, 2014 4:10 pm

    Delfalco hasn’t really been verified still hoping he will sign with UH.

    Shuett’s big sister Hannah plays for Hawaii Pacific. I think he’s an amazing get, he plays for one of the better club teams and is their youngest starter.


  25. warriorfan September 15, 2014 4:25 pm

    It is just wishful thinking on my part, it would be nice for UH men to get a top notch number one recruit. They have been so close before, just losing out on Taylor Sander, can you imagine how much different the past four years would have been if Wade snagged him over BYU?

    Anyway really hoping for Gasman, Worsley and that Virginia kid at least.


  26. mei mei September 15, 2014 4:32 pm

    20 I’ll take that bet in favor of the Wahine ! 🙂


  27. Cubicle1126 September 15, 2014 5:47 pm

    i’d disagree with Kansas remaining in the poll above Hawaii. Kansas has a loss to an unranked team (Lipscomb), while all of Hawaii’s losses have been to ranked teams. but, of course, where you fall (or fall out, as the case may be) in the poll depends not just on ‘who’ you lose to, but ‘when’ you lose to them.

    Kansas’s loss to Lipscomb was in the first weekend of the season, and even though this is just Week 3, voters have probably forgotten all about it already.


  28. kimo browner September 15, 2014 6:19 pm

    Im curious, yet skeptic, how Coach will realign his lineup. That old idiom, a leopard cannot change its spots, comes quickly to mind. Northern Arizona is the best opportunity, before conference play begins, to see frosh players Huff, Kendra and Maglio in some extended play. They need to get their shoes seriously on the court rather than for a RUDY moment.


  29. bleachercoach September 15, 2014 6:38 pm

    Now that we are unranked; it can be a blessing for our (the fans) expectations on the team and the team worrying about being a target for other teams especially in the BW. I feel the team can only grow and get better. Last last year, we upset #1 Texas and everybody and even Coach talked about the team going ” all the way”. Then the air came out of the balloon against BYU. That really hurts. I as a fan would rather hurt now but REJOICE at the end!!! How about you???
    L E T S G O B O W S !!!!!!!


  30. roofer68 September 15, 2014 7:11 pm

    28. Northern Arizona is 9-0 against lesser quality teams that UH has played, however they’re still 9-0. Shoji will take them very seriously and play them with his best lineup right now. Megan, Kendra and Mags will get in depending on the flow of the set and the match well in hand. They are in the Big Sky and we have seen Northern Colorado, Portland St and most recently Idaho St from that conference. So he is very familiar with their level of play. As we all know the momentum of the match can turn around very quickly even if you have superior athletes on your side. We witnessed that Sunday when San Fran ran away from UH in the first set.


  31. misc September 16, 2014 3:56 am

    Dave Shoji is a great coach and really don’t want him to retire soon. I agree though that Koelsch should see more playing time-however making the argument of how can one player cannot get better by riding the bench is absolutely absurd. Are you going to want to speak about the rest of the players too besides only Koelsch? …Exactly.

    My criticisms from a standpoint has been that I do usually see the coaching staff utilizing a player every once in a while that starts debates or make heads turn. This year it is Ginger Long before that it was Mita Uiato vs Monica Stauber, Lizzie Blake vs. Emily Maeda, Tara Hittle on being switched from the OPP to be Libeiro, Jessica Sudduth vs Heidi Ilustre etc


  32. misc September 16, 2014 4:05 am

    Yes I agree, but this team is still working out the kinks and which I suspect to be a Young and Dangerous team by mid season…might definitely turn heads in the tourney.


  33. LanaiBoy September 16, 2014 6:26 am

    Against Toyota Auto Body expect to see the freshmen get extensive playing time. Against Northern Arizona, depends on the game situation and match ups. The reality of today’s women’s volleyball is that RPI rules if you want to reach the postseason or, if you are one of the elites, looking at the possibility of being seeded. Hawaii cannot afford more losses, so Shoji and every other coach in a similar situation will tend to play and substitute conservatively. Look at the scores of the top 25 ranked teams. So many have lost one or two sets to obscure teams one never hears about. There is nothing strange about this since there are over 300 Division I teams and many are solid teams capable of upsets.


  34. tongo September 16, 2014 7:04 am

    Silly trivial question – but can anyone think of a wahine team that had so many new starters and players. Going back 1992, I remember a young Sarah Chase and then the great class of Robin and Angelica the following year.


  35. man eating apple September 16, 2014 7:41 am

    Hope UH loses to Northern Arizona, and we learn from it. Then we can beat Penn St. in the Final Four this year.


  36. Marc September 16, 2014 8:37 am

    Is Dave Shoji shooting himself and the program in the foot by not declaring when he intends to step down? If I’m a perspective recruit, I would want to know who will be my coaches throughout my entire playing career. I am sure other programs who are competing against UH for recruits must be using Shoji’s age and indecisiveness about his intentions against UH in the recruiting battles. UH should also be more proactive about the transition i.e. perhaps name a head coach in waiting…..Unlike other UH sports teams where we have to take a chance on hiring unproven assistant coaches, the women’s volleyball team should be able to attract candidates with solid head coaching experience at the highest level of collegiate volleyball.


  37. Ki September 16, 2014 9:09 am

    32. 1997 (The year after Hawaii’s last National Championship match). With the graduation of Ljungquist, Ah Mow, Nobriga, Yamashita, & Robins, Hawaii filled their spots with Kelly Cordray, Nikki Hubert, Shelley Kim, Tehani Miyashiro, Jessica Sudduth, & Jameka Stevens.

    2004. With the graduation of Willoughby, Kahumoku, Gustin, Duggins, & (I forget the other girls name), Hawaii filled their shoes with Boogard, Victoria Prince, Kari Gregory, Hittle, & Watanabe.


  38. Kaneohe Resident September 16, 2014 9:12 am

    Was it last year’s opening game when Hawaii swept Texas? The euphoria after the game was awsome! Come post-season, Hawaii couldn’t get out of the SS Arena and does anybody remember where Texas ended up? In the FINAL FOUR!

    I’m with HAIKUGUY575 (13) that UH will not win another title as long as Shoji is head coach. I’m also taking bets that same goes for Wong (if he becomes Shoji’s replacement). I’m for Robin being the future head coach. I think, she has more smarts than the both of them combined. You don’t set for the National team at 3? Olympics without knowing how to attack the opposition. Imagine the insight she gained from each of the coaches during those years.


  39. tongo September 16, 2014 10:10 am

    35 Wow, such inflammatory remarks! My bet is that you were never a three-time AVCA All-American nor the AVCA National Freshman of the Year player – all of which Scott Wong has achieved. The great indoor and sand recruiting class of this year and next year are indicative of Scott’s recruiting skills, that are so critical to any programs success. Robin Ah Mow (and I love Robin) has more international experience but not at the college where Scott coached at Pepperdine, SF and UH. Do you know any former national/Olympic players who have become head coach (not assistant) and won a national championship?


  40. Cubicle1126 September 16, 2014 10:55 am

    Kaneohe Resident — ah-mow-santos is on the coaching staff now … do you think she’s holding back or not contributing some or all of her insight and experience?


  41. tongo September 16, 2014 11:45 am

    35 Know any Olympic setters that are head coaches of Div. 1 Volleyball W. Programs that won a National Championship? Even our Olympic coaches – Lang Ping, ’06 (assistant at San Diego State) and Hugh McCutcheon, ’10 (Head Coach at MN) have not won national championships – as yet. This is not to say Robin can’t – but your rational is stretch.


  42. tongo September 16, 2014 11:52 am

    32 Thank you – great memories. And to the Wahine Class of 2014, we are so proud of you.


  43. LC September 16, 2014 11:57 am

    If the Wahine had started the year in the top 10 of the poll they would still be in the poll probably in the 12-15 area even after losing these three matches. Where you start the year makes one hell of a difference.

    They might get back in but don’t expect any quick climb back up ,not going to happen with the Big West coming up.

    To get back up to the top 10 area they will need to play some of the top 10 finishers next pre- season and beat them.


  44. mauna September 16, 2014 12:29 pm

    VT started their top25 and UH is in the majority of them, including Pablo and RK. What really matters is the RPI and rankings in the ending of November.


  45. LONGs a MUST September 16, 2014 12:41 pm

    New Mexico Lobos (asst. under Kauian Laurel Brassey–Smith Brothers Construction)

    I used to know a tongo in hs. The guy could very much play vb too. AA rated at the time.

    Cindy’s busy. 😉


  46. warriorfan September 16, 2014 4:51 pm

    36. Judging by the last three recruiting classes, recruiting is getting better than ever.
    There are stars in every class 2013- Taylor, 2014- Greeley and Magill, 2015- Mitchem/Castillo and I think it’s gonna pay off in the 2015/2016 seasons.


  47. Cindy Luis September 16, 2014 6:15 pm

    34. 1984 Ahuna, Jessie, Eagye, Eleneki were freshmen. UH lost seven from the 82-83 title teams.


  48. Cindy Luis September 16, 2014 6:48 pm

    43. completely agree.


  49. tongo September 16, 2014 7:20 pm

    47 Thanks Cindy. Those names bring back memories. I still remember Dave saying that had red shirt Jessie as no one ever thought that she become the power outside (2nd Team AA) in her senior year. I remember reading how Eagye’s High School volleyball coach could not believe how she transformed herself int0 the great AA MB by her senior year. Wow, those were amazing transformations. Will be fun watching the current girls transform themselves in the next few year.


  50. Hot September 17, 2014 2:14 am

    37. 2004 – Kim Willoughby, Lily Kahumoku, Maja Gustin, Lauren Duggins, Melissa Villaroman, Nohea Tano and Karin Lundqvist graduated. Their spots were filled by Alicia Arnott, Susie Boogaard, Victoria Prince, Kari Gregory, Ashley Watanabe, Tara Hittle and Juliana Sanders, respectively.


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