Friday-Saturday practice, Croson update, no practice Sunday

by Cindy Luis on August 16, 2014

While we work out some bugs with the new website, doing a condensed recap.

Team continued with lifting Friday. They go M-W-F.

Have heard from several people that Croson likely will be at Long Beach State and could be playing sand as soon as spring. She would have one more year indoor, which would be 2015.

Friday’s second practice went fairly long, until after 630. Both setters looking good, working well with the middles. Magill has amazing hops, gets up very quickly. Adolpho playing well, is even quicker on that “molokai slide.

Booster club president Stanley Ching finally able to make a practice. You should be seeing some of his photos and video when he posts on the booster page. Said numbers of boosters about the same as last year.

Continued to be impressed by Kahakai. solid platform, really good location on dig-sets. And I like Anderson. high volleyball IQ, comes from a volleyball family.

Huff is quite the athlete. Hitting well from both sides, particularly the right. Someone to think about out there.

Chatted a little with Taylor as she watched practice and helped video with the iPad. They are using more tech for instant feedback. She sees the doctor Monday and will get a better idea of when she might be able to cleared for more things other than the rehab she is doing.

Saturday’s morning practice was light, just over 2 hours. They are back in the gym at the moment but I had some other things to do so didn’t make it over.

Sunday’s paper will have a feature on the two Huntington Beach players Koelsch and Guinasso. Very nice young women. Rare to have two from the same school in the same class.

Spoke to Tom Pestolesi about them since he’s an HB grad and knows the families. Always good to check in with him. He said Mitchem is doing well academically and is on track (for her AA) in time to commit to a DI school in 2015.

1 Volleyballfan August 16, 2014 at 6:49 pm

Cindy, 2 things, is Koelsch, Australian? When she was interviewed on HDTV she sounded Australian. The other is, when is your Wahine Preview coming out?

Thank you, Cindy for all your updates on Wahine practices, much appreciated. Also, hope Nikki Taylor gets some good news from the Doctors on Monday.

2 Volleyballfan August 16, 2014 at 6:52 pm

Oh, did Tom Pestolesi mention which schools Annie Mitchem was leaning toward?

3 vballfreak808 August 16, 2014 at 10:07 pm

http://www.orgsites.com/hi/wahinevbbc/_pgg8.php3

Photos from Friday’s practice posted on the Booster Club website

4 vballfreak808 August 16, 2014 at 10:10 pm

Interesting to hear about Huff doing well on the right. Gives Hawaii some depth especially with height at that position.

How is Maglio doing?

Also thanks for the report Cindy!

5 volleyballfan August 17, 2014 at 2:13 am

Cindy, which Sunday paper are you talking about, concerning the 2 girls from Huntington Beach? The only volleyball article in this Sunday’s paper concerns Punahou, in the Alan Kang tournament.

6 surfboy August 17, 2014 at 5:23 am

I really hope Shoji has a scholie for Mitchem if she decides to come here. I am actually kind of wondering if she has another school in mind after she gets her AA.
Sounds like Kahakai is adjusting well in college, seen her play in high school and was amazed by her floor defense. Also from the pictures looks like Maglio has some hops for a young Freshman almost reminiscent of Brittany Hewitt with that long hovering block. Hope Koelsch can challenge at setter as her height advantage can do a lot for Hawaii.

7 LC August 17, 2014 at 7:00 am

*** 1) I don’t know what she is but she has Australians in her life in HB and has spoken about them often in social media. This girl is involved in a lot and what I have found interesting about her is that she rarely talks about volleyball.

*** There are actually 3 girls from Kendra’s HB high school playing volleyball here this season the other is Cheyenne Rankin an OH at HPU. All three are close friends.

*** Mitchem coming to Hawai`i isn’t a guarantee as far as I’m concerned. Annie lives in Manhattan Beach and seems too like her life there. If she gets an offer from UCLA or USC or even Long Beach State it will be interesting to see what she does.

8 uhfan August 17, 2014 at 10:13 am
9 Warriorfan August 17, 2014 at 11:06 am

7. Totally obvious now, LC = Diggingnawahine blog and twitter account, no question! Quit denying it.

Anyway too bad they didn’t interview Gianna and Clare as well. They might get some playing time as DS/Serving subs as well.

10 Warriorfan August 17, 2014 at 11:10 am

The US women failed to make finals at the World grand prix, what a mess.
Hope Danielson finally wants to play for them next summer. The super quick offense the US is running is perfect for her. Hope Hartong has a big first season as a pro and is given a chance with the national team next summer too.

11 Cindy Luis August 17, 2014 at 11:15 am

1. she didn’t sound Australian to me. grew up in California. but, as LC said, she has Australians in her life.
we aren’t doing a ‘preview magazine’ this year. didn’t do one last year either. But we’ll do something along the lines of last year with a big team picture on the front, analysis and stuff on the back.

12 Warriorfan August 17, 2014 at 11:16 am

I think Mitchem is a lock for UH. She wants to plays sand too. USC and UCLA aren’t recruiting her and besides USC doesn’t let their indoor players play sand.
She seems to be good all around player, Mitchem might actually be a good option on the right side.

13 Cindy Luis August 17, 2014 at 11:18 am

2. 6. 7. re: Mitchem.
Hawaii has been her top choice for a couple of years. But she has drawn interest from other schools. Personally, I feel she will be a Wahine.

14 Cindy Luis August 17, 2014 at 11:21 am

5. story was scheduled to run today. Guess it didn’t. Probably Monday then

15 LC August 17, 2014 at 11:21 am

9) Actually what I say here is either cut and pasted or info I find in places like twitter, other blogs and VT, I just don’t give them credit for it like everyone else does.

16 Cindy Luis August 17, 2014 at 11:24 am

4. Maglio doing fine. tall and athletic. it’s really hard to analyze since much of the time is spent skills drills per position. The scrimmages aren’t the normal kind, with coaches tossing or hitting balls in instead of a team serving a lot of the time.
As for Huff, she is hitting both left and right, swinging well from both sides. think i was just paying more attention to her when she was on the right.

17 Big Island VB fan August 17, 2014 at 11:25 am

I see that I had to change my user name since someone else snatched it up while I was gone to California. Too bad I had to miss the USA men’s match against Iran last night as the venue was moved from Pauley Pavillion to Irvine due to flooding from a burst pipe that ruined the floor. Heard that they won in three straight sets. Irvine was too far from the Santa Monica hostel I’m staying at. Will be returning to the Big Island and following closely the Rainbow Wahine matches. Glad that at least those I can view online.

Cindy, I have one question, will Croson play indoor volleyball for Long Beach this fall or only next year?

18 Cindy Luis August 17, 2014 at 11:31 am

15. perhaps you should give credit for the cutting and pasting of other’s material. and then share your opinions on the statements.

19 Cindy Luis August 17, 2014 at 12:55 pm

BTW. no practice Sunday

20 surfboy August 17, 2014 at 1:55 pm

I really hope Hawaii is still her top choice if a scholie is available, is she transfers i can see an exciting few seasons for Hawaii as they will be solid all around— with atleast one NC. Dang I havent been this excited about a team since the 2011 season.

21 Warriorfan August 17, 2014 at 3:07 pm

Only way they will contend for final four berth in 2015 is IF Higgins or Koelsch assert themselves as the best setter in the big west and can get the team hitting over .300.
Kahakai becomes the best libero in the big west and UH doesn’t miss a beat from losing Longo.
Greeley and Taylor become all american calibre outside hitters, and Magill becomes a dominant all american in the middle.

Those are big Ifs. expecting “at least one national championship” is just totally setting yourself up for disappointment, Have you seen who USC and Penn State are recruiting??

22 AdmrVT August 17, 2014 at 3:10 pm

I believe that with Kalei getting a VB scholarship this year, all 12 are accounted for. Kalei is the only senior with a scholie, so not sure how this will be adjusted for 2015 when Castillo and Granato will be arriving, or where that puts Mitchem if she wants to come too.

Magill, Olevao, Long and Passi are juniors.

23 Warriorfan August 17, 2014 at 3:18 pm

Obviously some people that are on scholarship this season won’t be next season, My guesses are Long and Passi or possibly Olevao.
Won’t surprise me one bit for Long to decide to concentrate on her beach career next season.

Also some of the recruits (possibly Granato) might have a deal with the coaches to walk on their first season like Passi did.

24 Volleyballfan August 17, 2014 at 6:59 pm

WF, I am guessing Long and Olevao could be in jeopardy of losing their scholarships next year, if they do not contribute in a big, big, way this year. This is especially true for Olevao. Shoji is expecting BIG things from her this year, since she is now a Junior. If it does not materialize she may be without a scholarship next year. If it comes down to Olevao and Mitchem getting that last scholarship, it is a NO brainer who will get it. I do not believe Passi will be without a scholarship, next year. She already was without a scholarship last year, for my reason why. I can see, like you, Long switching to Sand Volleyball, for 2015.

25 bowsfan August 17, 2014 at 7:48 pm

I don’t think Coach Beeman will have another VB/BB players on her team. Robins-Hardy was the clue that she didn’t want to go that route. I think she’ll gladly go the grad student like route, such as Monica De Angelis, Ricketts and now Calhoun. Jade Vorster will go the same route with Liberty, now it kind of makes sense why Jade was a green/red shirt, she was @ UH for a year and a half and not on the clock. Still has 2 years to play with her sister. I think Wahine basketball will have another softball player and probably Huff play after they finish the 4 years in their main sport.

26 warriorfan August 17, 2014 at 8:32 pm

I think that’s a mistake by Beeman, she gets 15 whole scholarships for christ sakes, that is a lot. and Huff looks very promising in basketball, better than half her recruits.

27 Warriorfan August 18, 2014 at 12:54 am

Just adding to my point it’s ridiculous womens basketball can go 3 deep in scholarship players, only 5 people play at a time, jeez.
Womens volleyball can’t even go 2 deep on scholarship players, NCAA needs to add at least two more scholarships for indoor volleyball IMO.

28 setaone August 18, 2014 at 7:24 am

I know it isn’t too much in his control, but it seems like a waste of at least a year of Koesch’s career to be the backup until she is a senior. I only say that based on reports of her playing ability. It feels like it has been awhile since Hawaii has had setters that were two years apart.

29 setaone August 18, 2014 at 7:44 am

“Womens volleyball can’t even go 2 deep on scholarship players, NCAA needs to add at least two more scholarships for indoor volleyball IMO.”

The only way this happens is to take it away from football, which will never happen.

30 bowsfan August 18, 2014 at 8:32 am

Even if football not in the picture for some schools, they only have only so many scholarships per NCAA.

Baseball/Softball 11.7 /12
M BB/ W BB 13/15
M VB/W VB 4.5/12

31 Cubicle1126 August 18, 2014 at 10:45 am

the scholarship discussion is interesting … another aspect is that bball has more, but they also use their bench a whole lot more than vball. only 5 on the floor for bball (6 for vball), but the same 5 don’t play the entire game in bball … there’s just no way. the bench in bball get more meaningful minutes/pt than the vball bench players in any given game.

that said, it’s likely that the way the NCAA decides or allocates the number of scholarships have nothing to do with the issues being raised here. it probably has more to do with the number of programs that exist, title IX issues, how the men’s game is governed, and other issues (both stated and unstated). tv coverage/broadcast contracts, i bet, may even play a part…

32 Cindy Luis August 18, 2014 at 11:17 am

17. If you read what I wrote, never said she was at LBS.
this is the original.
“Have heard from several people that Croson likely will be at Long Beach State and could be playing sand as soon as spring. She would have one more year indoor, which would be 2015.”

Don’t know what her academic status is so don’t know what her eligibility is.

33 Cindy Luis August 18, 2014 at 11:25 am

26. Again, Beeman’s job is not to help volleyball. Her job is to have the best team in her sport. And those are her scholarships to use. That Takahara-Dias agreed on Adolpho and Beeman continued the agreement was a gift for volleyball.
28. I think you’ll see Koelsch getting playing time so it’s not a waste of a year.
30. Thank you for getting to that first.
29. Non-football playing schools, like the rest of the Big West, still have the same numbers of scholarships. But agree that indoor volleyball should get at least 13, what Shoji has wanted for a while. 12 for position players, 1 for a libero.

34 rayson August 18, 2014 at 11:29 am

There was an attempt to increase the number of women’s volleyball scholarships from 12 to 13 back in 2005. If I remember correctly, it was adopted by the NCAA Board of Directors but then overturned by a membership vote at the 2006 convention.

35 mei mei August 18, 2014 at 12:30 pm

thx 3 for the photo link – i see Longo is a “student” assistant… nice !

there is certainly some athletic girls w/ height! luv it!

36 Cindy Luis August 18, 2014 at 7:14 pm

23. Don’t think it’s ‘obvious’ at all that people on scholarship won’t be on scholarship next year. True that scholarships are renewed every year but Shoji isn’t known to ‘pull’ scholarships.
31. Actually it’s not Title IX, which mandates equality in institutions receiving federal funds. What is being applied is gender equity in terms of the number of playing opportunities offered.
34. You are correct.
35. yes, mentioned that the first day of practice.

37 Cindy Luis August 18, 2014 at 7:16 pm

8. thanks.
35. you can find all the ‘outlooks’ on uhathletics.com on the volleyball page.

38 Cubicle1126 August 19, 2014 at 12:01 am

Cindy — I disagree. I’m sure Title IX’s influence still applies to the scenarios being bounced around here. The fact is that scholarships in a given sport where both men and women play aren’t equal (see Bowsfan’s post). Even in basketball — where revenues from the men’s game supports the women’s game and other non-revenue sports — the men get fewer scholarships than the women. We all know, of course, that football throws all the scholarships numbers for a loop. But Title IX’s mandate, in part, results in the disparity in the scholarship numbers in the other sports. Why? Because Title IX is also more than just a equity requirement; the law that has flowed out of the courts and later legislation require, among other things, proportionality with enrollment and with the interest of the genders. Compliance with this, as well as the large demands of collegiate football, have influenced the scholarship levels/numbers of other sports. Any change in those numbers, as is being discussed here, would also necessarily implicate a review for Title IX compliance.

39 Cindy Luis August 19, 2014 at 6:45 am

38. Thank you for your take on Title IX. agree. my point was that it’s the gender equity requirement that drives the compliance. Title IX set the base. However, if you go back to the very start of Title IX, and I spoke with the late Patsy Mink before her passing in a story back in 2002, this was an educational law. This was to make sure that institutions stopped discriminating against women (and by race, religion, etc) when it came to admission to school. The reason Mrs. Mink went into law was because she was denied admission to medical school, based on her gender. And schools did not hide the fact that they denied the applications because she was a woman.
She was surprised how it ended up being used so powerfully in athletics.
Was just saying that people use the term Title IX when they should be using gender equity.

40 Cubicle1126 August 19, 2014 at 8:35 am

Cindy — I would say that what or however Title IX was intended, it has become synonymous with ‘gender equity.’ Because when you look at it, at its most basic, Title IX bars genders discrimination in education. Gender discrimination lawsuits in education are nearly always brought under Title IX. There are now even legal theories on how men can potentially make a gender discrimination claim using Title IX. That’s probably another aspect of the use of the law that Congresswomen Mink would be really surprised by. And given what you’ve said about her early thoughts on Title IX, it’s a little ironic then that an athletic complex/park in central Oahu was named after her. Maybe the more apt thing to name after her would have been a school instead…

41 Cindy Luis August 19, 2014 at 9:00 am

Don’t find it ironic She was from that area One of the first things she did for athletics was to get tennis courts built in Waipahu To clarify She said that she didn’t foresee title Ix applied to athletics the way it has been I should give a link to that story We did a weeklong series in 2002

42 Cubicle1126 August 19, 2014 at 10:03 am

i think i remember that story on Mink. and don’t mind me, i find irony in odd places.

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